In regards to smartphones in general: I suppose editing Wikipedia as a
general activity is unlikely to be great no matter how good our apps are.
Screen and Keyboard don't lend themselves for editing (longer) prose.
However, with stuart’s and pine’s idea of using OSM and GPS for photos we
would use what smartphones and their users are good at. Also, adding data
to existing items on wikidata or correcting typos on Wikipedia might be
things that could be done well in an app that provides functionality geared
towards that specific usecase.
this leaves the door open for competitors to remix our
content with
better interfaces, and also encourages potential contibutors to leave
Wikimedia for places that provide nice, modern designs and user experiences.
Interesting point. Are there ideas of how other's remixes could help to
actually strengthen rather than weaken the project?
Jan
2016-07-15 4:22 GMT+02:00 Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com>om>:
I was thinking along similar lines as Stuart, using
OSM to navigate and
encouraging users to take photos of landmarks and other buildings where
that's permitted by FOP. Landmarks for which we have only small photos, old
photos (more than about 3 years), or no photos could be prioritized.
Also, for readers, how about showing the readers an OSM view of the world
and noting which nearby features have Wikipedia articles as the users
navigate on the map?
Finally, I'd like users to have emotionally rewarding experiences when
exploring our content, as well as creating new content or editing existing
content. Editing is painful on mobile, and even on desktop in VE there are
bugs which are frustrating. I'd like our tools to work properly, fast, and
intuitively. I realize that WMF has a limited budget, but our interface is
a ways from being a smooth and enjoyable experience, both on VE and on
wikitext. And for readers, I'd like to have robust multimedia search and
interactive features. We are far behind in our interfaces compared to sites
and apps that others provide, and I hope that we can close that gap within
the next two to three years. If WMF does not improve its interfaces
rapidly, this leaves the door open for competitors to remix our content
with better interfaces, and also encourages potential contibutors to leave
Wikimedia for places that provide nice, modern designs and user experiences.
Pine
On Jul 14, 2016 15:03, "Stuart A. Yeates" <syeates(a)gmail.com> wrote:
A game built on a travel-photograph-upload loop
would be a great way to
build our depth of imagery.
cheers
stuart
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On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Toby Negrin <tnegrin(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
Hi Pine -- did you have any specific ideas? I
spent some time in the
gaming industry and am familiar with Ingress, the game that Pokeman Go is
based on, as well as the theories behind mechanics/compulsion loops that
mobile games use.
I'll share one general thought -- the research-edit-publish loop is a
great mechanism -- it's quick and easy and very gratifying, especially
combined with a google search.
However, we've generally found that the notion that we use gaming
mechanics to encourage people to read or edit wikipedia does not have broad
support in our communities.
-Toby
On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi WMF Mobile and Research,
I'm wondering if we (mostly meaning "you" but perhaps with external
collaborators) have considered how the Wikipedia mobile apps, Wikipedia
mobile web, the Wikidata game, and/or the Commons app could borrow some
design ideas or features from Pokémon Go to make Wikimedia offerings more
appealing, particularly to younger audiences. This would apply to content
consumption and contribution, as well as community aspects of Wikimedia
experiences, particularly on mobile platforms.
Thanks,
Pine
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