Re: [Wiki-research-l] design patterns for peer learning and peer production, with wikimedia case study - preprint

Hey Joe, My big question is how these pedagogic maps factor in the negatives of peer production communities - harassment, toxicity - and route around or solve for them. The inclusion of carrying capacity, and explicit recognition of the costs of labour overall, is great to see. But I would love to see roadmaps that factor in the "dark side" here, and the specific emotional labour costs of dealing with that dark side. Without factoring those things in, the practical utility of the roadmaps - outside of publishing - is likely to be somewhat constrained and difficult to scale. And in a year where we have learned more and more about the costs around a lot of collaborative and communicative environments, from Wikipedia to Twitter, including these things (or recognising them) is really not optional. I don't see it discussed in your work (I admit that I may have just missed it, and please let me know if so!) The patterns themselves are excellent, however, and I really like the structure of the work. I do wonder about the generalisability of some of the examples; in particular while Wikiprojects are _ideally_ a good starting point for a lot of newcomers I don't have the data to hand about whether, in practice, it is the starting point for a large proportion of users, and I don't see citations to that effect in your paper (although I do see the claim). It would be good if someone more informed about this particular question than I could chip in with what they've measured/observed in detail (I know some people have been studying Wikiprojects specifically, particularly James Hare) On 28 December 2015 at 09:17, Joe Corneli <holtzermann17(a)gmail.com> wrote: -- Oliver Keyes Count Logula Wikimedia Foundation