So, if I can re-ignite and re-frame the original
question I posed,
- Why do we need a "wiki journal" if there are already high impact
journals that are receptive to high quality "wiki studies"?
-Aaron
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Manuel Palomo Duarte <manuel.palomo(a)uca.es
Nice post, Kerry. Let me add that the citation
rates are calculated using
the cites in reputated journals already indexed ...
2012/11/8 Kerry Raymond <kerry.raymond(a)gmail.com>
Actually the reputation of journals is usually
derived from its impact
factor****
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_factor****
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which is all about citation rates rather than acceptance/rejection rates.
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Acceptance rates are sometimes used for newer journals as citation rates
aren’t available. But it doesn’t follow that a new journal must reject
reasonable papers in order to achieve some desired acceptance rate. A new
journal (properly advertised) will probably attract a lot of papers that
have been rejected elsewhere so you probably end up with plenty of
worthy-of-rejection material. ****
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There is no way to get an immediate “great reputation” for a new
journal. But I think a clear focus on topic, a hard-working international
editorial team, and a firm but fair reviewing process and reviewers will
yield good-quality papers and will attract more good quality papers in
response****
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Kerry****
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wiki-research-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Aaron
Halfaker
*Sent:* Friday, 9 November 2012 1:51 AM
*To:* Research into Wikimedia content and communities
*Subject:* Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wiki Research Journal? - Why?****
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"Highly rated" is an interesting property. One of the ways that a
publication venue becomes highly rated is by being highly restrictive. In
fact, the primary measurement of the quality of a publication venue is the
acceptance rate of that conference. ****
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WikiSym is not considered highly rated because a high proportion of the
submitted papers are accepted. Would a wiki journal be more restrictive in
order to gain a "highly rated" status? ****
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I think it's interesting to ask why WikiSym needs improvement and why
attendance has been falling. If a WikiSym is a wiki conference that is
struggling to maintain participation, how might a wiki journal surmount
such trouble? Assuming that the answer to my question above is "yes, the
wiki-journal would be more restrictive", how would such a journal gather
more submissions than an established conference like WikiSym -- enough to
both produce regular issues and maintain a high rejection rate?****
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-Aaron****
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On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Joe Corneli <holtzermann17(a)gmail.com>
wrote:****
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Aaron Halfaker <aaron.halfaker(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
To state it plainly, why do we need yet another
publication venue
specific to wiki software?****
I think people want a "highly rated" publication venue. Also,
«The reason why WikiSym is changing is for the same reason. People are
not going to the conference! I think the attendance has been below
100 for some time now. That's not a sustainable number for the amount
of work that goes into organizing a conference.»
But what you're saying suggests that maybe work should be done to
improve existing venues rather than creating a new one.
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