Allow me to propose something different: Wikipedia needs better writing,
not technical solutions. And for different target groups, we need different
encyclopedias:
* for children
* for people with disabilities, such as
* for scholars, e.g. "Wikipedia scholar".
A different wiki for every target group can be arranged in the best
possible way for the target group.
Kind regards
Ziko
Am Sa., 9. Feb. 2019 um 21:55 Uhr schrieb Aaron Gray <
aaronngray.lists(a)gmail.com>gt;:
I am thinking maybe we could use subdomains for
layperson, and for schools,
and maybe universities to have specialized [approved] content also ? Just
an idea given this possible mechanism.
On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 at 20:15, Aaron Gray <aaronngray.lists(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Thank you please keep suggestions and pragmatics
coming in !
I looked at this problem some time ago and the extra programming for what
I am proposing is quite minimal utilizing existing MediaWiki libraries
and
adding extra code to support the tag structure
with defaulting to make it
seamless to existing articles.
I really think this would increase the usability and audience of
Wikipedia and also might possibly allow us to integrate content from
other
Wikipedia projects.
Regards,
Aaron
On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 at 07:57, Amir E. Aharoni <
amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il>
wrote:
> The suggestions that bring up the Simple English Wikipedia miss the fact
> that it only covers the English language, which most people don't know,
> and
> doesn't do almost anything for the many other languages of the world.
(I'm
> saying "almost anything" because I
know that there are people who prefer
> to
> translate articles from the Simple English Wikipedia, and this
indirectly
> benefits other languages.)
>
> One thing about how Wikipedia works that practically no-one ever
> challenges
> is that every page title is associated with a page, and the page is
always
> a single big blob of sections, section
headings, templates and magic
> words.
>
> What if it was not a single blob?
>
> What if all the magic words, such as NOTOC, DISPLAYTITLE, and
DEFAULTSORT
> moved to a separate metadata storage?
>
> More closely to this thread's topic, what if at least some sections that
> all or most pages have were stored separately, so that it would be
> possible
> to parse and render them semantically? The References section, for
> example,
> is something that many pages have. What if it could be separated from
the
> prose blob and stored separately, so that it
would be parsed
semantically
> for different screens and contexts, such as
Wikicite? Currently its
> rendering and storage is heavily biased for desktop and wiki syntax
> editing, and suboptimal for mobile display and editing, as well as for
> translation.
>
> And most closely to the thread's original topic, what if one page could
> have several lead sections? Sure, this can be done now with hacks such
as
> templates and namespaces, but these are still
hacks: they are not
> semantic,
> not portable across languages, and not easily machine-readable.
>
> Of course, doing all these things would require major, major changes in
> how
> Wikipedia's software works. Developers would have to write a lot of code
> and editors would have to get used to new things. But sometimes it's
worth
> thinking our of the box instead of saying
"that's not how Wikipedia
> works".
>
> בתאריך שבת, 9 בפבר׳ 2019, 02:16, מאת Aaron Gray <
> aaronngray.lists(a)gmail.com
> >:
>
> > I am suggesting WikiPedia has context-sensitive articles so if you
are a
> > kid or a layperson or an expert in a
field you get a different
> > introduction.
> >
> > Often the reason people don't read or use WikiPedia is articles are
too
> > complex at the start.
> >
> > Having an adaptive setting that can be chosen but users as default
needs
> > facilitating by WikiMedia technology.
> >
> > Thoughts and ideas and possible implementation ideas on this idea are
> > welcomed.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Aaron
> >
> >
> > --
> > Aaron Gray
> >
> > Independent Open Source Software Engineer, Computer Language
Researcher,
Information Theorist, and amateur computer scientist.
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