Hi Stuart,
Thank you for your thoughts so far. I really like how the discussion is
progressing.
The methodology will, of course, yield other results about editor dynamics
and growth paths. Paid editing and sock puppetry as systemic risk factors
could be included in the model exogenously but it might be possible to
endogenise them in any future research. At this stage, the most important
thing is to lay the grounds for developing a sensible model that can be
later upgraded with new assumptions.
As for the editing experience, I've been around since 2008 (this is my edit
log <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Kiril_Simeonovski>
).
Best,
Kiril
On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 12:37 AM Stuart A. Yeates <syeates(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Kiril
Let's just say that history has taught us to be risk-averse to
drive-by researchers.
Can you point us to other research output using this methodology? Do
you (or any of your team) have significant editing experience? Are you
familiar with the firestorm that is paid editing and sock puppetry??
cheers
stuart
--
...let us be heard from red core to black sky
On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 10:43, Kiril Simeonovski
<kiril.simeonovski(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Pine,
The findings from the research will be articulated to draw clear
conclusions about what causes utility and disutility from participation,
and how this is perceived by different editors. For instance, it is
natural
to assume that editors come to contribute by
adding content that will
remain visible, while blocks and reverted edits are risk factors that
drive
them away, although different editors have
different levels of risk
aversion. Similarly to any other research, the benefit for the community
and individual editors is going to be indirect but yet not insignificant
to
be accepted in the future process of
decision-making (if the research
demonstrates the existence of high level of risk aversion towards
something, then it automatically signals that doing that thing is harmful
for the environment).
I know that it's impossible to predict the extent to which this research
would make impact because the body of literature is very poor on
volunteer-driven environments in a dynamic setting but it's definitely
worth to start off something that might attract the attention of
researchers in this direction. At the end, the research is not meant to
carve rules in stone that any single editor should respect but rather to
suggest something that individuals and communities might find useful (the
means of doing this will definitely not turn Wikipedia into a laboratory
or
put someone's privacy in danger).
Best,
Kiril
On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 9:43 PM Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Kiril,
>
> Thank you for sharing your proposal.
>
> I am concerned about the possibility of Wikipedia being used as a
> laboratory for experiments that consume volunteers' time and/or
> personal data, and don't benefit Wikipedia or its participants. Does
> your research benefit the community, and if so, how? It sounds like
> your research intends to develop a model of decision trees for
> individual Wikipedians, and at first read I don't understand how the
> individual research subjects or the community would benefit.
>
> Sorry if this sounds defensive, but I hope that you understand why I'm
> asking.
>
> Pine
> (
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
>
> On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 6:00 PM Kiril Simeonovski
> <kiril.simeonovski(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am currently working on a research concerned with modelling user
> > behaviour on Wikipedia. The idea is to design a field experiment
over a
> > random sample of Wikipedians in order
to examine their risk
preferences
> and
> > define (dis)utilities that will be used in a utility-maximisation
model.
> >
> > I have already submitted an abstract that got accepted for the
> > biennial Foundations
> > of Utility and Risk Conference 2020 <https://www.furconference.org/>
> and my
> > future plans include presentation of the concept at other research
> > conferences (including Wikimania 2020).
> >
> > You can visit the project page
> > <
>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Modelling_Behaviour_in_a_Peer_Prod…
> >
> > of this research on Meta. Your questions and comments are welcome at
any
time. Thank you!
Best regards,
Kiril
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