Hello all, Daria at WMUK suggested that I ask this list, hoping someone out there can help. I'm a Wikimedian in Residence working at Glasgow Museums in Scotland. We've had a lot of curator interest in editing and contributing to Wiki, but that's brought up some issues concerning the use of Wiki during working time, the oversight that the employer would have, etc. Glasgow Museums are part of Glasgow Life, which is a council-run body. I wondered if anyone had come up against these sorts of issues before, and if so, how they'd been dealt with? I'm looking at ways in which curators can leave messages on talk pages, engage in discussion on Wikiprojects, etc, but some are really keen on direct editing. Any advice or experiences greatly appreciated! All the best, Sara Thomashttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/Museums_Galleries_Scotland
Hi Sara, I've worked with the Council of Central Museums in Sweden for a while now, and a bunch of curators are both editing and engageing in discussions during their work time. No concerns about employer oversight has been raised, but rather that the transparency makes it easy to show off what they have done. Beeing transparent also makes it easier for the wikimedia community to see what GLAM staff are doing, and to help out when that is needed and ask for expert input when sources, images or knowledge they think the GLAM can provide is called for.
Some of the museums have created institutional pages where they list articles they are watching and working with, commons categories, projects and users working on the GLAM. See https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Projekt_GLAM/Tekniska_museet for the Tekniska museet page.
Best regards, /axel
==================================== Axel Pettersson
+46 (0)730 59 58 13 haxpett@gmail.com
Twitter: @Haxpett https://twitter.com/#%21/haxpett Blogg: http://haxpett.wordpress.com/
2015-04-22 12:46 GMT+02:00 Sara Thomas sa.thomas@live.com:
Hello all,
Daria at WMUK suggested that I ask this list, hoping someone out there can help. I'm a Wikimedian in Residence working at Glasgow Museums in Scotland. We've had a lot of curator interest in editing and contributing to Wiki, but that's brought up some issues concerning the use of Wiki during working time, the oversight that the employer would have, etc. Glasgow Museums are part of Glasgow Life, which is a council-run body.
I wondered if anyone had come up against these sorts of issues before, and if so, how they'd been dealt with? I'm looking at ways in which curators can leave messages on talk pages, engage in discussion on Wikiprojects, etc, but some are really keen on direct editing.
Any advice or experiences greatly appreciated!
All the best, Sara Thomas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/Museums_Galleries_Scotland
GLAM mailing list GLAM@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glam
Hello Sara,
in Germany we suggest the staff should register with their institution and declare on their user page who they are. We had a year long project on paid editing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:German_Wikipedia_WikiProject_on_How_to_deal_with_Paid_Editing culminating in a request for comment. The result was, that paid editing is ok as long as the editor is respecting the neutral point of view https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view and avoiding edits where conflict of interest https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest would lure.
kindly
Barbara Fischer Kuratorin für Kulturpartnerschaften
Jeweils persönlich von Montag bis Donnerstag für Sie erreichbar Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | NEU: Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-(0)44
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.
2015-04-22 13:35 GMT+02:00 Axel Pettersson haxpett@gmail.com:
Hi Sara, I've worked with the Council of Central Museums in Sweden for a while now, and a bunch of curators are both editing and engageing in discussions during their work time. No concerns about employer oversight has been raised, but rather that the transparency makes it easy to show off what they have done. Beeing transparent also makes it easier for the wikimedia community to see what GLAM staff are doing, and to help out when that is needed and ask for expert input when sources, images or knowledge they think the GLAM can provide is called for.
Some of the museums have created institutional pages where they list articles they are watching and working with, commons categories, projects and users working on the GLAM. See https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Projekt_GLAM/Tekniska_museet for the Tekniska museet page.
Best regards, /axel
==================================== Axel Pettersson
+46 (0)730 59 58 13 haxpett@gmail.com
Twitter: @Haxpett https://twitter.com/#%21/haxpett Blogg: http://haxpett.wordpress.com/
2015-04-22 12:46 GMT+02:00 Sara Thomas sa.thomas@live.com:
Hello all,
Daria at WMUK suggested that I ask this list, hoping someone out there can help. I'm a Wikimedian in Residence working at Glasgow Museums in Scotland. We've had a lot of curator interest in editing and contributing to Wiki, but that's brought up some issues concerning the use of Wiki during working time, the oversight that the employer would have, etc. Glasgow Museums are part of Glasgow Life, which is a council-run body.
I wondered if anyone had come up against these sorts of issues before, and if so, how they'd been dealt with? I'm looking at ways in which curators can leave messages on talk pages, engage in discussion on Wikiprojects, etc, but some are really keen on direct editing.
Any advice or experiences greatly appreciated!
All the best, Sara Thomas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/Museums_Galleries_Scotland
GLAM mailing list GLAM@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glam
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I beg to differ. The Meinungsbild (German Wikipedia's equivalent to English Wikipedia's RfC) was rejected based on formal grounds. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meinungsbilder/Umgang_mit_bezahltem_S... Although some users argued in favour of respecting NPOV and avoiding COI edits, the substantial part of the Meinungsbild has mere informative character. In the end the result is a rejected Meinungsbild with inconclusive opinions for or against certain aspects of paid editing and a status quo of the existing COI policy http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Interessenkonflikt
Christoph
2015-04-22 13:42 GMT+02:00 Barbara Fischer barbara.fischer@wikimedia.de:
Hello Sara,
in Germany we suggest the staff should register with their institution and declare on their user page who they are. We had a year long project on paid editing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:German_Wikipedia_WikiProject_on_How_to_deal_with_Paid_Editing culminating in a request for comment. The result was, that paid editing is ok as long as the editor is respecting the neutral point of view https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view and avoiding edits where conflict of interest https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest would lure.
kindly
Barbara Fischer Kuratorin für Kulturpartnerschaften
Jeweils persönlich von Montag bis Donnerstag für Sie erreichbar Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | NEU: Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-(0)44
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.
2015-04-22 13:35 GMT+02:00 Axel Pettersson haxpett@gmail.com:
Hi Sara, I've worked with the Council of Central Museums in Sweden for a while now, and a bunch of curators are both editing and engageing in discussions during their work time. No concerns about employer oversight has been raised, but rather that the transparency makes it easy to show off what they have done. Beeing transparent also makes it easier for the wikimedia community to see what GLAM staff are doing, and to help out when that is needed and ask for expert input when sources, images or knowledge they think the GLAM can provide is called for.
Some of the museums have created institutional pages where they list articles they are watching and working with, commons categories, projects and users working on the GLAM. See https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Projekt_GLAM/Tekniska_museet for the Tekniska museet page.
Best regards, /axel
==================================== Axel Pettersson
+46 (0)730 59 58 13 haxpett@gmail.com
Twitter: @Haxpett https://twitter.com/#%21/haxpett Blogg: http://haxpett.wordpress.com/
2015-04-22 12:46 GMT+02:00 Sara Thomas sa.thomas@live.com:
Hello all,
Daria at WMUK suggested that I ask this list, hoping someone out there can help. I'm a Wikimedian in Residence working at Glasgow Museums in Scotland. We've had a lot of curator interest in editing and contributing to Wiki, but that's brought up some issues concerning the use of Wiki during working time, the oversight that the employer would have, etc. Glasgow Museums are part of Glasgow Life, which is a council-run body.
I wondered if anyone had come up against these sorts of issues before, and if so, how they'd been dealt with? I'm looking at ways in which curators can leave messages on talk pages, engage in discussion on Wikiprojects, etc, but some are really keen on direct editing.
Any advice or experiences greatly appreciated!
All the best, Sara Thomas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/Museums_Galleries_Scotland
GLAM mailing list GLAM@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glam
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Thanks so much Axel, appreciated!Best, Sara
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 13:35:06 +0200 From: haxpett@gmail.com To: glam@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [GLAM] Curators editing in working time
Hi Sara,I've worked with the Council of Central Museums in Sweden for a while now, and a bunch of curators are both editing and engageing in discussions during their work time. No concerns about employer oversight has been raised, but rather that the transparency makes it easy to show off what they have done. Beeing transparent also makes it easier for the wikimedia community to see what GLAM staff are doing, and to help out when that is needed and ask for expert input when sources, images or knowledge they think the GLAM can provide is called for. Some of the museums have created institutional pages where they list articles they are watching and working with, commons categories, projects and users working on the GLAM. See https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Projekt_GLAM/Tekniska_museet for the Tekniska museet page.Best regards,/axel ==================================== Axel Pettersson +46 (0)730 59 58 13 haxpett@gmail.com
Twitter: @HaxpettBlogg: http://haxpett.wordpress.com/
2015-04-22 12:46 GMT+02:00 Sara Thomas sa.thomas@live.com:
Hello all, Daria at WMUK suggested that I ask this list, hoping someone out there can help. I'm a Wikimedian in Residence working at Glasgow Museums in Scotland. We've had a lot of curator interest in editing and contributing to Wiki, but that's brought up some issues concerning the use of Wiki during working time, the oversight that the employer would have, etc. Glasgow Museums are part of Glasgow Life, which is a council-run body. I wondered if anyone had come up against these sorts of issues before, and if so, how they'd been dealt with? I'm looking at ways in which curators can leave messages on talk pages, engage in discussion on Wikiprojects, etc, but some are really keen on direct editing. Any advice or experiences greatly appreciated! All the best, Sara Thomashttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/Museums_Galleries_Scotland
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