On 9/17/2011 3:00 PM,
Sarah Stierch
wrote:
The choices are really mediocre for the "neckline" women's section. One of the photos is titled "Boobies.jpg."
I saw that "boobies.jpg" was changed to "Cleavage (breasts).jpg" about four hours ago by Mattbuck. +1 for Gendergap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That was the good news The bad news is that, from earlier posts about labiaplasty, it seemed that users wanted to remove the picture from the page, but that others put it back up. What I believe is that you had no right to take the picture off without consensus. Please excuse me if I missed something that would prove that there was consensus otherwise. Again, though, what troubles me is that SlimVirgin did get talked to rudely, being mockingly (in my opinion) called an "Administratrix" and being told to "play by the rules you claim to enforce". Also, you seem to be right in saying that the picture isn't a "hypertrophy" (although I wouldn't know) and I am pleased to see that a note was added early this morning UTC.
But my main problem is how we get to reach a consensus on this, by, which we certainly can, by questioning its "licensed medical image" status, pointing out that it is two different people, and pointing out that the labia minora are not hypertrophies.
--- RDW2210
Anyone know a medical doctor/gyno who can perhaps provide some type of documentation/review of the content?
Not sure if it would ever matter...but, a solid letter and such could help maybe..
I haven't looked at the article, I admit, it's a subject I'm not comfortable "examining"
Another example of why medical support could be beneficial to Wikipedia as a whole.
Sarah (Stierch)
Sent via iPhone - I apologize in advance for my shortness or errors! :)
On Sep 17, 2011, at 10:51 PM, The Richardsons donsav2@optonline.net wrote:
On 9/17/2011 3:00 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote:
The choices are really mediocre for the "neckline" women's section. One of the photos is titled "Boobies.jpg."
I saw that “boobies.jpg” was changed to “Cleavage (breasts).jpg” about four hours ago by Mattbuck. +1 for Gendergap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That was the good news The bad news is that, from earlier posts about labiaplasty, it seemed that users wanted to remove the picture from the page, but that others put it back up. What I believe is that you had no right to take the picture off without consensus. Please excuse me if I missed something that would prove that there was consensus otherwise. Again, though, what troubles me is that SlimVirgin did get talked to rudely, being mockingly (in my opinion) called an “Administratrix” and being told to “play by the rules you claim to enforce”. Also, you seem to be right in saying that the picture isn’t a “hypertrophy” (although I wouldn’t know) and I am pleased to see that a note was added early this morning UTC.
But my main problem is how we get to reach a consensus on this, by, which we certainly can, by questioning its “licensed medical image” status, pointing out that it is two different people, and pointing out that the labia minora are not hypertrophies.--- RDW2210 _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
There are some medical wikis out there that might be good to collaborate with:
http://askdrwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Physician_Medical_Wiki
http://www.medpedia.com/ - This one looks like they also have a Quora like system that lets you ask questions.
If those methods don't work, I know a gyno I could contact.
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stierch@gmail.comwrote:
Anyone know a medical doctor/gyno who can perhaps provide some type of documentation/review of the content?
Not sure if it would ever matter...but, a solid letter and such could help maybe..
I haven't looked at the article, I admit, it's a subject I'm not comfortable "examining"
Another example of why medical support could be beneficial to Wikipedia as a whole.
Sarah (Stierch)
Sent via iPhone - I apologize in advance for my shortness or errors! :)
On Sep 17, 2011, at 10:51 PM, The Richardsons donsav2@optonline.net wrote:
On 9/17/2011 3:00 PM,
Sarah Stierch
wrote:
The choices are really mediocre for the "neckline" women's section. One of the photos is titled "Boobies.jpg."
I saw that “boobies.jpg” was changed to “Cleavage (breasts).jpg” about four hours ago by Mattbuck. +1 for Gendergap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That was the good news The bad news is that, from earlier posts about labiaplasty, it seemed that users wanted to remove the picture from the page, but that others put it back up. What I believe is that you had no right to take the picture off without consensus. Please excuse me if I missed something that would prove that there was consensus otherwise. Again, though, what troubles me is that SlimVirgin did get talked to rudely, being mockingly (in my opinion) called an “Administratrix” and being told to “play by the rules you claim to enforce”. Also, you seem to be right in saying that the picture isn’t a “hypertrophy” (although I wouldn’t know) and I am pleased to see that a note was added early this morning UTC.
But my main problem is how we get to reach a consensus on this, by,which we certainly can, by questioning its “licensed medical image” status, pointing out that it is two different people, and pointing out that the labia minora are not hypertrophies.
--- RDW2210
Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
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ourmed.org (a MediaWiki wiki) is in NYC and they've come to several of our meetups. (wiki seems kinda dead or at least dormant; per their recentchanges, they seem to have done spam and vandal fighting every day in the last 2 weeks but there's no actual content work for 2 weeks straight AFAICT. of course, that's not really relevant to them having contacts to help with this and I think there's a good chance they would have some.)
Their director is GMiller1965 @ enwp. Let me or Pharos know if you'd like us to make an introduction.
-Jeremy
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 01:09, Nicole Willson artisticaltruist@gmail.com wrote:
There are some medical wikis out there that might be good to collaborate with: http://askdrwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Physician_Medical_Wiki http://www.medpedia.com/%C2%A0- This one looks like they also have a Quora like system that lets you ask questions. If those methods don't work, I know a gyno I could contact.
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stierch@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone know a medical doctor/gyno who can perhaps provide some type of documentation/review of the content? Not sure if it would ever matter...but, a solid letter and such could help maybe.. I haven't looked at the article, I admit, it's a subject I'm not comfortable "examining" Another example of why medical support could be beneficial to Wikipedia as a whole. Sarah (Stierch)
I requested the name change for Boobies.jpg today, and was pleased to see that Mattbuck did it quickly. :-)
Sydney
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 10:51 PM, The Richardsons donsav2@optonline.netwrote:
On 9/17/2011 3:00 PM,
Sarah Stierch
wrote:
The choices are really mediocre for the "neckline" women's section. One of the photos is titled "Boobies.jpg."
I saw that “boobies.jpg” was changed to “Cleavage (breasts).jpg” about four hours ago by Mattbuck. +1 for Gendergap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That was the good news The bad news is that, from earlier posts about labiaplasty, it seemed that users wanted to remove the picture from the page, but that others put it back up. What I believe is that you had no right to take the picture off without consensus. Please excuse me if I missed something that would prove that there was consensus otherwise. Again, though, what troubles me is that SlimVirgin did get talked to rudely, being mockingly (in my opinion) called an “Administratrix” and being told to “play by the rules you claim to enforce”. Also, you seem to be right in saying that the picture isn’t a “hypertrophy” (although I wouldn’t know) and I am pleased to see that a note was added early this morning UTC.
But my main problem is how we get to reach a consensus on this, by,which we certainly can, by questioning its “licensed medical image” status, pointing out that it is two different people, and pointing out that the labia minora are not hypertrophies.
--- RDW2210
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