I searched for "hairdresser" and was directed to barber. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser
Kind of interesting, that it directs to barber and then discusses male barbers and men's haircutting culture.
Surely I can't be the only person who finds this odd...
Really needs some gender neutrality... Cosmetology is the closest thing to any article that discusses "hairdressers" "hair stylists" and it's basically a paragraph.
Just surprises me..no "hairstylists" content on Wikipedia. If I am missing something, or passing over it, please correct me! Another example on the struggles we have here... (for example, the hair stylist Frederic Fekkai links to barber....and he's an icon of women's hair styling and is considered a "hairdresser" or stylist)
-Sarah
Yes, as you have pointed out in other threads the whole area of women's beauty is a mess.
Disorganized and under represented
Slight mention of hair stylists here, too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hair_cut
. Sydney
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stierch@gmail.comwrote:
I searched for "hairdresser" and was directed to barber. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser
Kind of interesting, that it directs to barber and then discusses male barbers and men's haircutting culture.
Surely I can't be the only person who finds this odd...
Really needs some gender neutrality... Cosmetology is the closest thing to any article that discusses "hairdressers" "hair stylists" and it's basically a paragraph.
Just surprises me..no "hairstylists" content on Wikipedia. If I am missing something, or passing over it, please correct me! Another example on the struggles we have here... (for example, the hair stylist Frederic Fekkai links to barber....and he's an icon of women's hair styling and is considered a "hairdresser" or stylist)
-Sarah
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I searched for "hairdresser" and was directed to barber. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser
Kind of interesting, that it directs to barber and then discusses male barbers and men's haircutting culture.
Surely I can't be the only person who finds this odd...
Really needs some gender neutrality... Cosmetology is the closest thing to any article that discusses "hairdressers" "hair stylists" and it's basically a paragraph.
Just surprises me..no "hairstylists" content on Wikipedia. If I am missing something, or passing over it, please correct me! Another example on the struggles we have here... (for example, the hair stylist Frederic Fekkai links to barber....and he's an icon of women's hair styling and is considered a "hairdresser" or stylist)
-Sarah
Actually, it's not as bad as you think. No one has written a good hairdressers article. What we have is at Beauty salon, which has little about beauty shop culture. What is needed is a several good articles: probably hairdressing, beauty shop, and beauty salon.
Fred
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:03 AM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stierch@gmail.com wrote:
I searched for "hairdresser" and was directed to barber. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser
Kind of interesting, that it directs to barber and then discusses male barbers and men's haircutting culture.
Surely I can't be the only person who finds this odd...
Did you take a look at the article history? Would you prefer the last pre-merger version (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hairdresser&oldid=238820338) over a redirect to a proper article about the same subject?
Regards, Ole
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:03 AM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stierch@gmail.com wrote:
I searched for "hairdresser" and was directed to barber. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser
Kind of interesting, that it directs to barber and then discusses male barbers and men's haircutting culture.
Surely I can't be the only person who finds this odd...
Did you take a look at the article history? Would you prefer the last pre-merger version (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hairdresser&oldid=238820338) over a redirect to a proper article about the same subject?
Regards, Ole
Yes, it is as simple as writing a good article.
Fred
Article started: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser
Please add to it!
Ryan Kaldari
On 9/15/11 6:31 AM, Fred Bauder wrote:
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:03 AM, Sarah Stierchsarah.stierch@gmail.com wrote:
I searched for "hairdresser" and was directed to barber. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser
Kind of interesting, that it directs to barber and then discusses male barbers and men's haircutting culture.
Surely I can't be the only person who finds this odd...
Did you take a look at the article history? Would you prefer the last pre-merger version (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hairdresser&oldid=238820338) over a redirect to a proper article about the same subject?
Regards, Ole
Yes, it is as simple as writing a good article.
Fred
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser
Oh yeah!!! A brief history is added and some statistical data about hairdressers in the US today.
/cheer
-Sarah
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkaldari@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Article started: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser
Please add to it!
Ryan Kaldari
On 9/15/11 6:31 AM, Fred Bauder wrote:
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:03 AM, Sarah Stierchsarah.stierch@gmail.com wrote:
I searched for "hairdresser" and was directed to barber. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser
Kind of interesting, that it directs to barber and then discusses male barbers and men's haircutting culture.
Surely I can't be the only person who finds this odd...
Did you take a look at the article history? Would you prefer the last pre-merger version (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hairdresser&oldid=238820338) over a redirect to a proper article about the same subject?
Regards, Ole
Yes, it is as simple as writing a good article.
Fred
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Interestingly enough, the top Google result for "hairdresser" is the barber article on Wikipedia.
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stierch@gmail.comwrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser
Oh yeah!!! A brief history is added and some statistical data about hairdressers in the US today.
/cheer
-Sarah
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkaldari@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Article started: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser
Please add to it!
Ryan Kaldari
On 9/15/11 6:31 AM, Fred Bauder wrote:
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:03 AM, Sarah Stierch<sarah.stierch@gmail.com
wrote:
I searched for "hairdresser" and was directed to barber. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser
Kind of interesting, that it directs to barber and then discusses male barbers and men's haircutting culture.
Surely I can't be the only person who finds this odd...
Did you take a look at the article history? Would you prefer the last pre-merger version (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hairdresser&oldid=238820338
)
over a redirect to a proper article about the same subject?
Regards, Ole
Yes, it is as simple as writing a good article.
Fred
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Hopefully that'll change (I think....?)....
I encourage everyone to improve on it and watch the super awesome video I just added from the Netherlands Institute for Sound and Vision. They sure don't do hair like they used to....
:D
-Sarah
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Nicole Willson artisticaltruist@gmail.comwrote:
Interestingly enough, the top Google result for "hairdresser" is the barber article on Wikipedia.
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stierch@gmail.comwrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser
Oh yeah!!! A brief history is added and some statistical data about hairdressers in the US today.
/cheer
-Sarah
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkaldari@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Article started: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser
Please add to it!
Ryan Kaldari
On 9/15/11 6:31 AM, Fred Bauder wrote:
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:03 AM, Sarah Stierch<
sarah.stierch@gmail.com>
wrote:
I searched for "hairdresser" and was directed to barber. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser
Kind of interesting, that it directs to barber and then discusses
male
barbers and men's haircutting culture.
Surely I can't be the only person who finds this odd...
Did you take a look at the article history? Would you prefer the last pre-merger version (
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hairdresser&oldid=238820338)
over a redirect to a proper article about the same subject?
Regards, Ole
Yes, it is as simple as writing a good article.
Fred
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Wow, that was fast! Nice work. I think this deserves a DYK :)
Ryan Kaldari
On 9/15/11 2:54 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser
Oh yeah!!! A brief history is added and some statistical data about hairdressers in the US today.
/cheer
-Sarah
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari@wikimedia.org mailto:rkaldari@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Article started: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser Please add to it! Ryan Kaldari On 9/15/11 6:31 AM, Fred Bauder wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:03 AM, Sarah Stierch<sarah.stierch@gmail.com <mailto:sarah.stierch@gmail.com>> >> wrote: >>> I searched for "hairdresser" and was directed to barber. >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser >>> >>> Kind of interesting, that it directs to barber and then discusses male >>> barbers and men's haircutting culture. >>> >>> Surely I can't be the only person who finds this odd... >> Did you take a look at the article history? Would you prefer the last >> pre-merger version >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hairdresser&oldid=238820338 <http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hairdresser&oldid=238820338>) >> over a redirect to a proper article about the same subject? >> >> Regards, >> Ole > Yes, it is as simple as writing a good article. > > Fred > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap-- GLAMWIKI Partnership Ambassador for Wikimedia http://www.glamwiki.org Wikipedian-in-Residence, Archives of American Art http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SarahStierch and Sarah Stierch Consulting /Historical, cultural & artistic research & advising./
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Ack! I just nominated something....and you did also!
-Sarah
(mine was about the 5 foot tall hairdo and Marie Antoinette...)
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkaldari@wikimedia.orgwrote:
** Wow, that was fast! Nice work. I think this deserves a DYK :)
Ryan Kaldari
On 9/15/11 2:54 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser
Oh yeah!!! A brief history is added and some statistical data about hairdressers in the US today.
/cheer
-Sarah
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkaldari@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Article started: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser
Please add to it!
Ryan Kaldari
On 9/15/11 6:31 AM, Fred Bauder wrote:
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:03 AM, Sarah Stierch<sarah.stierch@gmail.com
wrote:
I searched for "hairdresser" and was directed to barber. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser
Kind of interesting, that it directs to barber and then discusses male barbers and men's haircutting culture.
Surely I can't be the only person who finds this odd...
Did you take a look at the article history? Would you prefer the last pre-merger version (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hairdresser&oldid=238820338
)
over a redirect to a proper article about the same subject?
Regards, Ole
Yes, it is as simple as writing a good article.
Fred
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You guys inspired me to do this, last night: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hairstyle&action=historysubmit...
It still needs lots of help though -- it needs non-Western material added, plus information about men's hairstyles, plus it needs a nice clean rewrite once it's complete. I might spend a little more time on it this weekend. Or, I might move on to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handbag
I probably don't need to say this, but these are personal edits, not ED edits. LOL.
Thanks, Sue
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Sue Gardner sgardner@wikimedia.orgwrote:
It still needs lots of help though -- it needs non-Western material added, plus information about men's hairstyles, plus it needs a nice clean rewrite once it's complete. I might spend a little more time on it this weekend. Or, I might move on to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handbag
Great start.
I think http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hairstyles has some hints at other particular styles/trends to cover for both men and women. I'd also say you should feel comfortable splitting the History of hairstyles into a separate article if gets a lot bigger once men's hair stuff is added. :-)
i don't know - an ED that knows the history of hairdos is pretty rad. lololol :)
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Sue Gardner sgardner@wikimedia.org wrote:
You guys inspired me to do this, last night:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hairstyle&action=historysubmit...
It still needs lots of help though -- it needs non-Western material added, plus information about men's hairstyles, plus it needs a nice clean rewrite once it's complete. I might spend a little more time on it this weekend. Or, I might move on to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handbag
I probably don't need to say this, but these are personal edits, not ED edits. LOL.
Thanks, Sue
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Nice edits, Sue.
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 12:14, Sue Gardner sgardner@wikimedia.org wrote:
You guys inspired me to do this, last night: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hairstyle&action=historysubmit...
It still needs lots of help though -- it needs non-Western material added, plus information about men's hairstyles, plus it needs a nice clean rewrite once it's complete. I might spend a little more time on it this weekend. Or, I might move on to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handbag
I probably don't need to say this, but these are personal edits, not ED edits. LOL.
Thanks, Sue
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On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 21:03, Sarah Stierch sarah.stierch@gmail.com wrote:
I searched for "hairdresser" and was directed to barber. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairdresser
That is utterly bizarre.
Sarah