hi @all,
I have two questions, A. @list admin* B. in general
A.
I think that on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mailing_lists
in the list following "The public mailing lists for the Wikipedia project include:"
gendergap
should be added. how to describe the intention of this list?
is this information still current? https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
B.
... and I always wonder why stats creators are so sure about "knowing the gender" of users behind user names - btw, either/or, apparently counting only two genders ...
I would like to suggest that the list description for this list https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap not repeat any such number in its list description, and certainly without pointing to the source of this information
I also wonder what such statistics in particular may be intended to hide... as far as I am informed any stats (are designed to) hide more than they show ;-)
thanks & cheers, Claudia koltzenburg@w4w.net
Answering B
The lastest source of all gender stats is: http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3AEditor_Survey_Report_-... says woman are 9% of all editors (not 13% like says in the mailing list page) _____ *Béria Lima*
*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho. http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos*
On 12 May 2012 02:45, koltzenburg@w4w.net wrote:
hi @all,
I have two questions, A. @list admin* B. in general
A.
I think that on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mailing_lists
in the list following "The public mailing lists for the Wikipedia project include:"
gendergap
should be added. how to describe the intention of this list?
is this information still current? https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
B.
... and I always wonder why stats creators are so sure about "knowing the gender" of users behind user names - btw, either/or, apparently counting only two genders ...
I would like to suggest that the list description for this list https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap not repeat any such number in its list description, and certainly without pointing to the source of this information
I also wonder what such statistics in particular may be intended to hide... as far as I am informed any stats (are designed to) hide more than they show ;-)
thanks & cheers, Claudia koltzenburg@w4w.net
Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
On 5/12/12 1:45 AM, koltzenburg@w4w.net wrote:
I think that on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mailing_lists
in the list following "The public mailing lists for the Wikipedia project include:"
I added it to the list. I had no clue that Wikipedia page existed. I was only familiar with the meta page. I don't think that list is complete, actually.
gendergap
should be added. how to describe the intention of this list?
is this information still current? https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Technically, sure. Depending on the study, female contributors vary ranging from 9% to 13%. I've updated it to the recent statistics from the editor survey that was just released. Let's hope we can change it in the future. :P
I can't really say much about the statistical data. The most recent editor survey is gathered via a survey site notice (or whatever), so it's the participants who are claiming their gender. You can find out peoples genders by turning on certain scripts, if the user has chose their gender in their profile. Also, sometimes you just know - my username is SarahStierch...so you can only assume I'm a female. When I did my Women and Wikimedia survey out of 1000 people I emailed only 2 wrote back saying they identified as men. You can also discover that type of stuff through infoboxes. You can only assume someone is a woman most of the time if they say they are. I did have to have assistance examining the data because I have a math disability making it hard for me to dissect numbers, so I'm probably not the best person to provide more detailed information.
I think Ayush is probably the best person to ask about the editor's survey. If you would like me to point him in your direction I'm happy too, I don't think he's on this list. (And I vary well could have failed to understand your question! :D)
-Sarah