The Inspire Campaign brought out a huge amount of interest in resolving the problem of sexual harassment. There were some 14 proposals made by 26 users. Someone brought all these proposals together on one page for discussion, but as far as I know, none of them was ever funded. The reason for this is uncertain; perhaps anti-harassment measures are better placed in the general budget than funded as one-time projects. I have pinged Siko (WMF) and Luis Villa (WMF) on the discussion page, and asked for more feedback about how to move forward with implementation on these issues.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Community_discussion_on_haras...
Looking at the proposed budget for next year, yes harassment is likely to be included in the general budget. That's not necessarily a reason not to support other proposals, however; I'm not sure the two are related.
On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 5:44 AM, Neotarf neotarf@gmail.com wrote:
The Inspire Campaign brought out a huge amount of interest in resolving the problem of sexual harassment. There were some 14 proposals made by 26 users. Someone brought all these proposals together on one page for discussion, but as far as I know, none of them was ever funded. The reason for this is uncertain; perhaps anti-harassment measures are better placed in the general budget than funded as one-time projects. I have pinged Siko (WMF) and Luis Villa (WMF) on the discussion page, and asked for more feedback about how to move forward with implementation on these issues.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Community_discussion_on_haras...
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Hi Neotarf, I've responded on-wiki as well, but to recap here: I, too, was impressed by the way the community showed up during Inspire to discuss harassment. Some of those 14 listed were early ideas, not all got fully fleshed out by community members into proposals with funding requests. Ultimately, few of the anti-harassment project plans were considered ready for funding by the grant committee who reviewed them. In some cases, that may be because the idea was deemed more suitably handled by a regular budget and staff support rather than 1-time funding for independent community members - online harassment is a really tough issue, and some aspects may need an organization behind them. In other cases, though, the lack of funding may just have been because the idea wasn't ready for implementation (it may have been missing team members, community backers, a research phase to determine whether the selected solution was feasible or likely to go somewhere, or something else). All full grant proposals were given feedback on the talk page by the committee about potential improvements, and we'd welcome future proposals to consider any ideas that have moved forward into actionable plans since then. Individual Engagement Grants will be accepting proposals in September, and Project and Event Grants accepts them year-round. Cheers, Siko
On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
Looking at the proposed budget for next year, yes harassment is likely to be included in the general budget. That's not necessarily a reason not to support other proposals, however; I'm not sure the two are related.
On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 5:44 AM, Neotarf neotarf@gmail.com wrote:
The Inspire Campaign brought out a huge amount of interest in resolving the problem of sexual harassment. There were some 14 proposals made by 26 users. Someone brought all these proposals together on one page for discussion, but as far as I know, none of them was ever funded. The reason for this is uncertain; perhaps anti-harassment measures are better placed in the general budget than funded as one-time projects. I have pinged Siko (WMF) and Luis Villa (WMF) on the discussion page, and asked for more feedback about how to move forward with implementation on these issues.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Community_discussion_on_haras...
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Thank you, Siko, that sounds encouraging.
Samuel Klein I think has a point that "harassment" and "sexual harassment" are not necessarily the same, the second being more of a civil rights issue.
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Siko Bouterse sbouterse@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi Neotarf, I've responded on-wiki as well, but to recap here: I, too, was impressed by the way the community showed up during Inspire to discuss harassment. Some of those 14 listed were early ideas, not all got fully fleshed out by community members into proposals with funding requests. Ultimately, few of the anti-harassment project plans were considered ready for funding by the grant committee who reviewed them. In some cases, that may be because the idea was deemed more suitably handled by a regular budget and staff support rather than 1-time funding for independent community members - online harassment is a really tough issue, and some aspects may need an organization behind them. In other cases, though, the lack of funding may just have been because the idea wasn't ready for implementation (it may have been missing team members, community backers, a research phase to determine whether the selected solution was feasible or likely to go somewhere, or something else). All full grant proposals were given feedback on the talk page by the committee about potential improvements, and we'd welcome future proposals to consider any ideas that have moved forward into actionable plans since then. Individual Engagement Grants will be accepting proposals in September, and Project and Event Grants accepts them year-round. Cheers, Siko
On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
Looking at the proposed budget for next year, yes harassment is likely to be included in the general budget. That's not necessarily a reason not to support other proposals, however; I'm not sure the two are related.
On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 5:44 AM, Neotarf neotarf@gmail.com wrote:
The Inspire Campaign brought out a huge amount of interest in resolving the problem of sexual harassment. There were some 14 proposals made by 26 users. Someone brought all these proposals together on one page for discussion, but as far as I know, none of them was ever funded. The reason for this is uncertain; perhaps anti-harassment measures are better placed in the general budget than funded as one-time projects. I have pinged Siko (WMF) and Luis Villa (WMF) on the discussion page, and asked for more feedback about how to move forward with implementation on these issues.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Community_discussion_on_haras...
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On 7/2/2015 4:37 PM, Neotarf wrote:
Samuel Klein I think has a point that "harassment" and "sexual harassment" are not necessarily the same, the second being more of a civil rights issue.
Harassment and sexual harassment can be done by men to women or women to men.
However, harassment BECAUSE one is a woman is a separate category which should be more clearly identified as SEXIST harassment.
Some guys just don't want a woman editor changing/reverting/challenging their edits - or just doing a better editing job on an article of interest to a particular guy - or just speaking out in general.
While a few women may go after editors JUST because they are men (especially if they do obviously sexist editing!), women in general don't harass others, and especially men, as much because most of us are indoctrinated into being "nice" and "fair" and even deferential.
Even as a bad tempered radical feminist, I went around for years being so proud of myself for NOT losing my sometimes volatile temper at all the sexism on Wikipedia and keeping my commentary relatively civil.
I wish I'd lost my temper much more and much earlier so I would have gotten kicked off sooner - and for substantive reasons of being uncivil, as opposed to the trumped up ones for which I was kicked off in December 2014. Then I wouldn't have wasted so much time being harassed by sexist editors who just didn't want me editing at all!
CM