Big smile on my face... I love the idea of regular editathons. I've never been to a knitting/quilting circle but I imagine a group of women editing Wikipedia would have a similar look and feel. Piggy-backing on the WMDC "salons" might be a way forward as facilitating an "editathon" requires quite a bit of the facilitator, while a regularly scheduled editing-circle or editing-salon wouldn't require a facilitator at all. I think that would be easier to sustain and replicate.
-Rosie user:Rosiestep
My draft is now up at:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Blog/Drafts/Regular_editathons_in_...
Anyone who wants to help with grammar and other language stuff (English is my second language after all), feel free. Your help is appreciated.
Best wishes,
Lennart Guldbrandsson
070 - 207 80 05 http://www.elementx.se - arbete Skriv som ett proffs - min senaste bok http://www.mrchapel.wordpress.com - personlig blogg
Presentation @aliasHannibal - på Twitter
"Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till världens samlade kunskap. Det är vårt mål."
Jimmy Wales
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 08:17:27 -0800 From: rosiestep.wiki@gmail.com To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Regular editathons in Sweden about women and literature
Big smile on my face... I love the idea of regular editathons. I've never been to a knitting/quilting circle but I imagine a group of women editing Wikipedia would have a similar look and feel. Piggy-backing on the WMDC "salons" might be a way forward as facilitating an "editathon" requires quite a bit of the facilitator, while a regularly scheduled editing-circle or editing-salon wouldn't require a facilitator at all. I think that would be easier to sustain and replicate. -Rosieuser:Rosiestep
_______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Hi Lennart and others, We had a short meeting yesterday in Utrecht to discuss the Gendergap and also our plans for the upcoming Art & Feminism weekend of 7 & 8 March. Wikimedia Netherlands will co-host an edit-a-thon at the Amsterdam Stedelijk Museum and we also plan to host an international writing challenge lasting the entire weekend, directed at experienced "challenge writers". Since WMNL has also set aside some funding for Gendergap this year, we were also talking about other plans. One thing that we decided to do is to set aside one "Wiki-Saturday" per month for the Gendergap in all of its Wiki(p/m)edia aspects, but with the emphasis on the social side of things as an in-person meetup. We will be announcing the "Saturday meetups" in the Stedelijk venue.
Based on our meeting, I have done some searching around and have the following questions: 1) I was wondering if anyone had any measurable outcomes for such an investment of time and funds? We tentatively had a year-target of attracting 5 new women editors that remain active for at least 5 months. I have doubts whether this is measurable or even realistic. Thoughts anyone? 2) I noticed that though we seem to have lots of women artists on Wikipedia, we are still missing articles about their artworks or list articles of their artworks. In a category on the English Wikipedia for "Lists of works of art" I noted an odd mish-mash of lists which include lists of works by 66 men and only 4 women (I just created the list for Judith Leyster and hope to make list articles for two more Dutch women artists before March). Would anyone here be interested in building a list of their favorite female artist? This will be a nice-to-have for 7&8 March writers browsing for something to write about, as most museums have works by women in the collections, but they are just not on show. If a work is in one of the national museums it is encyclopedic enough to write about.
Thanks in advance! Jane
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Lennart Guldbrandsson < l_guldbrandsson@hotmail.com> wrote:
My draft is now up at:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Blog/Drafts/Regular_editathons_in_...
Anyone who wants to help with grammar and other language stuff (English is my second language after all), feel free. Your help is appreciated.
Best wishes,
Lennart Guldbrandsson
070 - 207 80 05 http://www.elementx.se - arbete Skriv som ett proffs http://www.elementx.se/skriv-som-ett-proffs/ - min senaste bok http://www.mrchapel.wordpress.com - personlig blogg Presentation http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anv%c3%83%c2%a4ndare:Hannibal @aliasHannibal http://twitter.com/AliasHannibal - på Twitter
"*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till **världens samlade kunskap* http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Huvudsida*. Det är vårt mål.*" Jimmy Wales
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 08:17:27 -0800 From: rosiestep.wiki@gmail.com To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Regular editathons in Sweden about women and literature
Big smile on my face... I love the idea of regular editathons. I've never been to a knitting/quilting circle but I imagine a group of women editing Wikipedia would have a similar look and feel. Piggy-backing on the WMDC "salons" might be a way forward as facilitating an "editathon" requires quite a bit of the facilitator, while a regularly scheduled editing-circle or editing-salon wouldn't require a facilitator at all. I think that would be easier to sustain and replicate.
-Rosie user:Rosiestep
_______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Very cool! Good luck to you. Just a quick response to the first question:
I definitely think it's doable to get 5 editors to stay on for 5 months. The evaluation team should be able to help you with tools and guides to measure this.
My advice is to use the person-to-person method. That is, you invite a few female friends. Some will find it interesting. Make sure that it's a friendly space they come to. And some will come back. If you're a few regular people doing this, 5 should be on the low side for the Netherlands. We have about done it in Sweden without much effort, and with a little effort we could make it 10 (it's just been a busy time for me and a few others in the regular group).
Best wishes,
Lennart Guldbrandsson
070 - 207 80 05 http://www.elementx.se Skriv som ett proffs - min senaste bok Få regelbundna skrivtips direkt till din inkorg
@aliasHannibal - på Twitter
"Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till världens samlade kunskap. Det är vårt mål."
Jimmy Wales
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 13:43:58 +0100 From: jane023@gmail.com To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Regular editathons in Sweden about women and literature
Hi Lennart and others,We had a short meeting yesterday in Utrecht to discuss the Gendergap and also our plans for the upcoming Art & Feminism weekend of 7 & 8 March. Wikimedia Netherlands will co-host an edit-a-thon at the Amsterdam Stedelijk Museum and we also plan to host an international writing challenge lasting the entire weekend, directed at experienced "challenge writers". Since WMNL has also set aside some funding for Gendergap this year, we were also talking about other plans. One thing that we decided to do is to set aside one "Wiki-Saturday" per month for the Gendergap in all of its Wiki(p/m)edia aspects, but with the emphasis on the social side of things as an in-person meetup. We will be announcing the "Saturday meetups" in the Stedelijk venue. Based on our meeting, I have done some searching around and have the following questions:1) I was wondering if anyone had any measurable outcomes for such an investment of time and funds? We tentatively had a year-target of attracting 5 new women editors that remain active for at least 5 months. I have doubts whether this is measurable or even realistic.Thoughts anyone?2) I noticed that though we seem to have lots of women artists on Wikipedia, we are still missing articles about their artworks or list articles of their artworks. In a category on the English Wikipedia for "Lists of works of art" I noted an odd mish-mash of lists which include lists of works by 66 men and only 4 women (I just created the list for Judith Leyster and hope to make list articles for two more Dutch women artists before March). Would anyone here be interested in building a list of their favorite female artist? This will be a nice-to-have for 7&8 March writers browsing for something to write about, as most museums have works by women in the collections, but they are just not on show. If a work is in one of the national museums it is encyclopedic enough to write about. Thanks in advance!Jane On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Lennart Guldbrandsson l_guldbrandsson@hotmail.com wrote:
My draft is now up at:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Blog/Drafts/Regular_editathons_in_...
Anyone who wants to help with grammar and other language stuff (English is my second language after all), feel free. Your help is appreciated.
Best wishes,
Lennart Guldbrandsson
070 - 207 80 05 http://www.elementx.se - arbete Skriv som ett proffs - min senaste bok http://www.mrchapel.wordpress.com - personlig blogg
Presentation @aliasHannibal - på Twitter
"Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till världens samlade kunskap. Det är vårt mål."
Jimmy Wales
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 08:17:27 -0800 From: rosiestep.wiki@gmail.com To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Regular editathons in Sweden about women and literature
Big smile on my face... I love the idea of regular editathons. I've never been to a knitting/quilting circle but I imagine a group of women editing Wikipedia would have a similar look and feel. Piggy-backing on the WMDC "salons" might be a way forward as facilitating an "editathon" requires quite a bit of the facilitator, while a regularly scheduled editing-circle or editing-salon wouldn't require a facilitator at all. I think that would be easier to sustain and replicate. -Rosieuser:Rosiestep
_______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
_______________________________________________
Gendergap mailing list
Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit:
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
_______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Thanks! I was told we are using some tools internally to track specific edit-a-thon outcomes - is this what you mean? We want to track more than just edit-a-thon outcomes though
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Lennart Guldbrandsson < l_guldbrandsson@hotmail.com> wrote:
Very cool! Good luck to you. Just a quick response to the first question:
I definitely think it's doable to get 5 editors to stay on for 5 months. The evaluation team should be able to help you with tools and guides to measure this.
My advice is to use the person-to-person method. That is, you invite a few female friends. Some will find it interesting. Make sure that it's a friendly space they come to. And some will come back. If you're a few regular people doing this, 5 should be on the low side for the Netherlands. We have about done it in Sweden without much effort, and with a little effort we could make it 10 (it's just been a busy time for me and a few others in the regular group).
Best wishes,
Lennart Guldbrandsson
070 - 207 80 05 http://www.*elementx*.se http://www.elementx.se *Skriv som ett proffs http://www.elementx.se/skriv-som-ett-proffs/* - min senaste bok Få regelbundna skrivtips direkt till din inkorg http://elementx.us7.list-manage1.com/subscribe?u=ab2080465c6cd11b5b253f940&id=8a2b974a62
@aliasHannibal http://twitter.com/AliasHannibal - på Twitter
"*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till **världens samlade kunskap* http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Huvudsida*. Det är vårt mål.*" Jimmy Wales
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 13:43:58 +0100 From: jane023@gmail.com To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Regular editathons in Sweden about women and literature
Hi Lennart and others, We had a short meeting yesterday in Utrecht to discuss the Gendergap and also our plans for the upcoming Art & Feminism weekend of 7 & 8 March. Wikimedia Netherlands will co-host an edit-a-thon at the Amsterdam Stedelijk Museum and we also plan to host an international writing challenge lasting the entire weekend, directed at experienced "challenge writers". Since WMNL has also set aside some funding for Gendergap this year, we were also talking about other plans. One thing that we decided to do is to set aside one "Wiki-Saturday" per month for the Gendergap in all of its Wiki(p/m)edia aspects, but with the emphasis on the social side of things as an in-person meetup. We will be announcing the "Saturday meetups" in the Stedelijk venue.
Based on our meeting, I have done some searching around and have the following questions:
- I was wondering if anyone had any measurable outcomes for such an
investment of time and funds? We tentatively had a year-target of attracting 5 new women editors that remain active for at least 5 months. I have doubts whether this is measurable or even realistic. Thoughts anyone? 2) I noticed that though we seem to have lots of women artists on Wikipedia, we are still missing articles about their artworks or list articles of their artworks. In a category on the English Wikipedia for "Lists of works of art" I noted an odd mish-mash of lists which include lists of works by 66 men and only 4 women (I just created the list for Judith Leyster and hope to make list articles for two more Dutch women artists before March). Would anyone here be interested in building a list of their favorite female artist? This will be a nice-to-have for 7&8 March writers browsing for something to write about, as most museums have works by women in the collections, but they are just not on show. If a work is in one of the national museums it is encyclopedic enough to write about.
Thanks in advance! Jane
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Lennart Guldbrandsson < l_guldbrandsson@hotmail.com> wrote:
My draft is now up at:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Blog/Drafts/Regular_editathons_in_...
Anyone who wants to help with grammar and other language stuff (English is my second language after all), feel free. Your help is appreciated.
Best wishes,
Lennart Guldbrandsson
070 - 207 80 05 http://www.elementx.se - arbete Skriv som ett proffs http://www.elementx.se/skriv-som-ett-proffs/ - min senaste bok http://www.mrchapel.wordpress.com - personlig blogg Presentation http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anv%c3%83%c2%a4ndare:Hannibal @aliasHannibal http://twitter.com/AliasHannibal - på Twitter
"*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till **världens samlade kunskap* http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Huvudsida*. Det är vårt mål.*" Jimmy Wales
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 08:17:27 -0800 From: rosiestep.wiki@gmail.com To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Regular editathons in Sweden about women and literature
Big smile on my face... I love the idea of regular editathons. I've never been to a knitting/quilting circle but I imagine a group of women editing Wikipedia would have a similar look and feel. Piggy-backing on the WMDC "salons" might be a way forward as facilitating an "editathon" requires quite a bit of the facilitator, while a regularly scheduled editing-circle or editing-salon wouldn't require a facilitator at all. I think that would be easier to sustain and replicate.
-Rosie user:Rosiestep
_______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
_______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
I think that the evaluation team are working on other tools as well, but I am not sure. We haven't used their tools for our editathons, although they are probably better than our self-edited stats, since our goal is also to have fun :-)
Best wishes,
Lennart Guldbrandsson
070 - 207 80 05 http://www.elementx.se Skriv som ett proffs - min senaste bok Få regelbundna skrivtips direkt till din inkorg
@aliasHannibal - på Twitter
"Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till världens samlade kunskap. Det är vårt mål."
Jimmy Wales
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 14:49:23 +0100 From: jane023@gmail.com To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Regular editathons in Sweden about women and literature
Thanks! I was told we are using some tools internally to track specific edit-a-thon outcomes - is this what you mean? We want to track more than just edit-a-thon outcomes though On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Lennart Guldbrandsson l_guldbrandsson@hotmail.com wrote:
Very cool! Good luck to you. Just a quick response to the first question:
I definitely think it's doable to get 5 editors to stay on for 5 months. The evaluation team should be able to help you with tools and guides to measure this.
My advice is to use the person-to-person method. That is, you invite a few female friends. Some will find it interesting. Make sure that it's a friendly space they come to. And some will come back. If you're a few regular people doing this, 5 should be on the low side for the Netherlands. We have about done it in Sweden without much effort, and with a little effort we could make it 10 (it's just been a busy time for me and a few others in the regular group).
Best wishes,
Lennart Guldbrandsson
070 - 207 80 05 http://www.elementx.se Skriv som ett proffs - min senaste bok Få regelbundna skrivtips direkt till din inkorg
@aliasHannibal - på Twitter
"Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till världens samlade kunskap. Det är vårt mål."
Jimmy Wales
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 13:43:58 +0100 From: jane023@gmail.com To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Regular editathons in Sweden about women and literature
Hi Lennart and others,We had a short meeting yesterday in Utrecht to discuss the Gendergap and also our plans for the upcoming Art & Feminism weekend of 7 & 8 March. Wikimedia Netherlands will co-host an edit-a-thon at the Amsterdam Stedelijk Museum and we also plan to host an international writing challenge lasting the entire weekend, directed at experienced "challenge writers". Since WMNL has also set aside some funding for Gendergap this year, we were also talking about other plans. One thing that we decided to do is to set aside one "Wiki-Saturday" per month for the Gendergap in all of its Wiki(p/m)edia aspects, but with the emphasis on the social side of things as an in-person meetup. We will be announcing the "Saturday meetups" in the Stedelijk venue. Based on our meeting, I have done some searching around and have the following questions:1) I was wondering if anyone had any measurable outcomes for such an investment of time and funds? We tentatively had a year-target of attracting 5 new women editors that remain active for at least 5 months. I have doubts whether this is measurable or even realistic.Thoughts anyone?2) I noticed that though we seem to have lots of women artists on Wikipedia, we are still missing articles about their artworks or list articles of their artworks. In a category on the English Wikipedia for "Lists of works of art" I noted an odd mish-mash of lists which include lists of works by 66 men and only 4 women (I just created the list for Judith Leyster and hope to make list articles for two more Dutch women artists before March). Would anyone here be interested in building a list of their favorite female artist? This will be a nice-to-have for 7&8 March writers browsing for something to write about, as most museums have works by women in the collections, but they are just not on show. If a work is in one of the national museums it is encyclopedic enough to write about. Thanks in advance!Jane On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Lennart Guldbrandsson l_guldbrandsson@hotmail.com wrote:
My draft is now up at:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Blog/Drafts/Regular_editathons_in_...
Anyone who wants to help with grammar and other language stuff (English is my second language after all), feel free. Your help is appreciated.
Best wishes,
Lennart Guldbrandsson
070 - 207 80 05 http://www.elementx.se - arbete Skriv som ett proffs - min senaste bok http://www.mrchapel.wordpress.com - personlig blogg
Presentation @aliasHannibal - på Twitter
"Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till världens samlade kunskap. Det är vårt mål."
Jimmy Wales
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 08:17:27 -0800 From: rosiestep.wiki@gmail.com To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Regular editathons in Sweden about women and literature
Big smile on my face... I love the idea of regular editathons. I've never been to a knitting/quilting circle but I imagine a group of women editing Wikipedia would have a similar look and feel. Piggy-backing on the WMDC "salons" might be a way forward as facilitating an "editathon" requires quite a bit of the facilitator, while a regularly scheduled editing-circle or editing-salon wouldn't require a facilitator at all. I think that would be easier to sustain and replicate. -Rosieuser:Rosiestep
_______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
_______________________________________________
Gendergap mailing list
Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit:
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
_______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
_______________________________________________
Gendergap mailing list
Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit:
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
_______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
yes, Wikimedia DC was using some opt in tracking of editathons outcomes. and reporting activity in annual report http://wikimediadc.org/wiki/Annual_report_%282012%E2%80%932013%29
there are some case studies at GLAM wiki https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Case_studies/Archives_of_American_A...
but the evaluation team has the tools and methods they have a portal https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/08/29/evaluation-portal-on-meta-a-redesigned...
jim hayes
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Lennart Guldbrandsson < l_guldbrandsson@hotmail.com> wrote:
I think that the evaluation team are working on other tools as well, but I am not sure. We haven't used their tools for our editathons, although they are probably better than our self-edited stats, since our goal is also to have fun :-)
Best wishes,
Lennart Guldbrandsson
070 - 207 80 05 http://www.*elementx*.se http://www.elementx.se *Skriv som ett proffs http://www.elementx.se/skriv-som-ett-proffs/* - min senaste bok Få regelbundna skrivtips direkt till din inkorg http://elementx.us7.list-manage1.com/subscribe?u=ab2080465c6cd11b5b253f940&id=8a2b974a62
@aliasHannibal http://twitter.com/AliasHannibal - på Twitter
"*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till **världens samlade kunskap* http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Huvudsida*. Det är vårt mål.*" Jimmy Wales
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 14:49:23 +0100
From: jane023@gmail.com To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Regular editathons in Sweden about women and literature
Thanks! I was told we are using some tools internally to track specific edit-a-thon outcomes - is this what you mean? We want to track more than just edit-a-thon outcomes though
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Lennart Guldbrandsson < l_guldbrandsson@hotmail.com> wrote:
Very cool! Good luck to you. Just a quick response to the first question:
I definitely think it's doable to get 5 editors to stay on for 5 months. The evaluation team should be able to help you with tools and guides to measure this.
My advice is to use the person-to-person method. That is, you invite a few female friends. Some will find it interesting. Make sure that it's a friendly space they come to. And some will come back. If you're a few regular people doing this, 5 should be on the low side for the Netherlands. We have about done it in Sweden without much effort, and with a little effort we could make it 10 (it's just been a busy time for me and a few others in the regular group).
Best wishes,
Lennart Guldbrandsson
070 - 207 80 05 http://www.*elementx*.se http://www.elementx.se *Skriv som ett proffs http://www.elementx.se/skriv-som-ett-proffs/* - min senaste bok Få regelbundna skrivtips direkt till din inkorg http://elementx.us7.list-manage1.com/subscribe?u=ab2080465c6cd11b5b253f940&id=8a2b974a62
@aliasHannibal http://twitter.com/AliasHannibal - på Twitter
"*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till **världens samlade kunskap* http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Huvudsida*. Det är vårt mål.*" Jimmy Wales
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 13:43:58 +0100 From: jane023@gmail.com To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Regular editathons in Sweden about women and literature
Hi Lennart and others, We had a short meeting yesterday in Utrecht to discuss the Gendergap and also our plans for the upcoming Art & Feminism weekend of 7 & 8 March. Wikimedia Netherlands will co-host an edit-a-thon at the Amsterdam Stedelijk Museum and we also plan to host an international writing challenge lasting the entire weekend, directed at experienced "challenge writers". Since WMNL has also set aside some funding for Gendergap this year, we were also talking about other plans. One thing that we decided to do is to set aside one "Wiki-Saturday" per month for the Gendergap in all of its Wiki(p/m)edia aspects, but with the emphasis on the social side of things as an in-person meetup. We will be announcing the "Saturday meetups" in the Stedelijk venue.
Based on our meeting, I have done some searching around and have the following questions:
- I was wondering if anyone had any measurable outcomes for such an
investment of time and funds? We tentatively had a year-target of attracting 5 new women editors that remain active for at least 5 months. I have doubts whether this is measurable or even realistic. Thoughts anyone? 2) I noticed that though we seem to have lots of women artists on Wikipedia, we are still missing articles about their artworks or list articles of their artworks. In a category on the English Wikipedia for "Lists of works of art" I noted an odd mish-mash of lists which include lists of works by 66 men and only 4 women (I just created the list for Judith Leyster and hope to make list articles for two more Dutch women artists before March). Would anyone here be interested in building a list of their favorite female artist? This will be a nice-to-have for 7&8 March writers browsing for something to write about, as most museums have works by women in the collections, but they are just not on show. If a work is in one of the national museums it is encyclopedic enough to write about.
Thanks in advance! Jane
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Lennart Guldbrandsson < l_guldbrandsson@hotmail.com> wrote:
My draft is now up at:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Blog/Drafts/Regular_editathons_in_...
Anyone who wants to help with grammar and other language stuff (English is my second language after all), feel free. Your help is appreciated.
Best wishes,
Lennart Guldbrandsson
070 - 207 80 05 http://www.elementx.se - arbete Skriv som ett proffs http://www.elementx.se/skriv-som-ett-proffs/ - min senaste bok http://www.mrchapel.wordpress.com - personlig blogg Presentation http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anv%c3%83%c2%a4ndare:Hannibal @aliasHannibal http://twitter.com/AliasHannibal - på Twitter
"*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till **världens samlade kunskap* http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Huvudsida*. Det är vårt mål.*" Jimmy Wales
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 08:17:27 -0800 From: rosiestep.wiki@gmail.com To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Regular editathons in Sweden about women and literature
Big smile on my face... I love the idea of regular editathons. I've never been to a knitting/quilting circle but I imagine a group of women editing Wikipedia would have a similar look and feel. Piggy-backing on the WMDC "salons" might be a way forward as facilitating an "editathon" requires quite a bit of the facilitator, while a regularly scheduled editing-circle or editing-salon wouldn't require a facilitator at all. I think that would be easier to sustain and replicate.
-Rosie user:Rosiestep
_______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
_______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
_______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
I'm excited to see what comes from WMNL's events, Jane!
In terms of the "5 editors for 5 months" metric, here's one more benchmark, taken from Keilana's reporting on regular social edit-a-thons for women at Loyola:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Women_Scientists_Workshop_Develop...
From the report:
"I held social editing workshops at Loyola 7 times over 3 months, with around 5-8 people (96% women) per session, and 7 women formed a core editing group that came to most sections. Together, we created 72 articles." She notes that only 1 participant turned into a "born Wikipedian" who edited outside of the regular events, though.
WMF's program evaluation team told me that, compared to other editing workshops they'd looked at ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation/Evaluation_reports/2013/Ed...), this project's impact in terms of recruiting women and converting them into editors was achieved at a higher rate.
It feels like we're still missing lots of data for setting good benchmarks though. I tend to think that the more we use similar evaluation tools and share reports back into the pool, the smarter we'll all get about addressing the gender gap.
To that end, echoing the suggestion to visit the program evaluation portal: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation
Cheers! Siko
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 12:57 PM, J Hayes slowking4@gmail.com wrote:
yes, Wikimedia DC was using some opt in tracking of editathons outcomes. and reporting activity in annual report http://wikimediadc.org/wiki/Annual_report_%282012%E2%80%932013%29
there are some case studies at GLAM wiki
https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Case_studies/Archives_of_American_A...
but the evaluation team has the tools and methods they have a portal
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/08/29/evaluation-portal-on-meta-a-redesigned...
jim hayes
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Lennart Guldbrandsson < l_guldbrandsson@hotmail.com> wrote:
I think that the evaluation team are working on other tools as well, but I am not sure. We haven't used their tools for our editathons, although they are probably better than our self-edited stats, since our goal is also to have fun :-)
Best wishes,
Lennart Guldbrandsson
070 - 207 80 05 http://www.*elementx*.se http://www.elementx.se *Skriv som ett proffs http://www.elementx.se/skriv-som-ett-proffs/* - min senaste bok Få regelbundna skrivtips direkt till din inkorg http://elementx.us7.list-manage1.com/subscribe?u=ab2080465c6cd11b5b253f940&id=8a2b974a62
@aliasHannibal http://twitter.com/AliasHannibal - på Twitter
"*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till **världens samlade kunskap* http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Huvudsida*. Det är vårt mål.*" Jimmy Wales
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 14:49:23 +0100
From: jane023@gmail.com To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Regular editathons in Sweden about women and literature
Thanks! I was told we are using some tools internally to track specific edit-a-thon outcomes - is this what you mean? We want to track more than just edit-a-thon outcomes though
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Lennart Guldbrandsson < l_guldbrandsson@hotmail.com> wrote:
Very cool! Good luck to you. Just a quick response to the first question:
I definitely think it's doable to get 5 editors to stay on for 5 months. The evaluation team should be able to help you with tools and guides to measure this.
My advice is to use the person-to-person method. That is, you invite a few female friends. Some will find it interesting. Make sure that it's a friendly space they come to. And some will come back. If you're a few regular people doing this, 5 should be on the low side for the Netherlands. We have about done it in Sweden without much effort, and with a little effort we could make it 10 (it's just been a busy time for me and a few others in the regular group).
Best wishes,
Lennart Guldbrandsson
070 - 207 80 05 http://www.*elementx*.se http://www.elementx.se *Skriv som ett proffs http://www.elementx.se/skriv-som-ett-proffs/* - min senaste bok Få regelbundna skrivtips direkt till din inkorg http://elementx.us7.list-manage1.com/subscribe?u=ab2080465c6cd11b5b253f940&id=8a2b974a62
@aliasHannibal http://twitter.com/AliasHannibal - på Twitter
"*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till **världens samlade kunskap* http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Huvudsida*. Det är vårt mål.*" Jimmy Wales
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 13:43:58 +0100 From: jane023@gmail.com To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Regular editathons in Sweden about women and literature
Hi Lennart and others, We had a short meeting yesterday in Utrecht to discuss the Gendergap and also our plans for the upcoming Art & Feminism weekend of 7 & 8 March. Wikimedia Netherlands will co-host an edit-a-thon at the Amsterdam Stedelijk Museum and we also plan to host an international writing challenge lasting the entire weekend, directed at experienced "challenge writers". Since WMNL has also set aside some funding for Gendergap this year, we were also talking about other plans. One thing that we decided to do is to set aside one "Wiki-Saturday" per month for the Gendergap in all of its Wiki(p/m)edia aspects, but with the emphasis on the social side of things as an in-person meetup. We will be announcing the "Saturday meetups" in the Stedelijk venue.
Based on our meeting, I have done some searching around and have the following questions:
- I was wondering if anyone had any measurable outcomes for such an
investment of time and funds? We tentatively had a year-target of attracting 5 new women editors that remain active for at least 5 months. I have doubts whether this is measurable or even realistic. Thoughts anyone? 2) I noticed that though we seem to have lots of women artists on Wikipedia, we are still missing articles about their artworks or list articles of their artworks. In a category on the English Wikipedia for "Lists of works of art" I noted an odd mish-mash of lists which include lists of works by 66 men and only 4 women (I just created the list for Judith Leyster and hope to make list articles for two more Dutch women artists before March). Would anyone here be interested in building a list of their favorite female artist? This will be a nice-to-have for 7&8 March writers browsing for something to write about, as most museums have works by women in the collections, but they are just not on show. If a work is in one of the national museums it is encyclopedic enough to write about.
Thanks in advance! Jane
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Lennart Guldbrandsson < l_guldbrandsson@hotmail.com> wrote:
My draft is now up at:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Blog/Drafts/Regular_editathons_in_...
Anyone who wants to help with grammar and other language stuff (English is my second language after all), feel free. Your help is appreciated.
Best wishes,
Lennart Guldbrandsson
070 - 207 80 05 http://www.elementx.se - arbete Skriv som ett proffs http://www.elementx.se/skriv-som-ett-proffs/ - min senaste bok http://www.mrchapel.wordpress.com - personlig blogg Presentation http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anv%c3%83%c2%a4ndare:Hannibal @aliasHannibal http://twitter.com/AliasHannibal - på Twitter
"*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till **världens samlade kunskap* http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Huvudsida*. Det är vårt mål.*" Jimmy Wales
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 08:17:27 -0800 From: rosiestep.wiki@gmail.com To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Regular editathons in Sweden about women and literature
Big smile on my face... I love the idea of regular editathons. I've never been to a knitting/quilting circle but I imagine a group of women editing Wikipedia would have a similar look and feel. Piggy-backing on the WMDC "salons" might be a way forward as facilitating an "editathon" requires quite a bit of the facilitator, while a regularly scheduled editing-circle or editing-salon wouldn't require a facilitator at all. I think that would be easier to sustain and replicate.
-Rosie user:Rosiestep
_______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
_______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
_______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Siko, Thanks! I too am very curious what our outcomes will be 7&8 March. From my experience this will be next to zero for new editors, but it could be quite a lot for experienced editors. I took a look at the edit-a-thon toolkit but we won't be requesting any funding and I don't understand how to set up a cohort. Personally I will probably just be working on setting up some infrastructure beforehand and literally just write and monitor the hangout all weekend long. I don't expect to be collecting any new usernames.
Right now I am working on lists of artworks by women, in case someone gets inspired to write an article about one of the many artworks created by women. I hope that others are working in their own languages on similar lists and we get to see some article translations happening. Best, Jane
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:35 AM, Siko Bouterse sbouterse@wikimedia.org wrote:
I'm excited to see what comes from WMNL's events, Jane!
In terms of the "5 editors for 5 months" metric, here's one more benchmark, taken from Keilana's reporting on regular social edit-a-thons for women at Loyola:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Women_Scientists_Workshop_Develop...
From the report: "I held social editing workshops at Loyola 7 times over 3 months, with around 5-8 people (96% women) per session, and 7 women formed a core editing group that came to most sections. Together, we created 72 articles." She notes that only 1 participant turned into a "born Wikipedian" who edited outside of the regular events, though.
WMF's program evaluation team told me that, compared to other editing workshops they'd looked at ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation/Evaluation_reports/2013/Ed...), this project's impact in terms of recruiting women and converting them into editors was achieved at a higher rate.
It feels like we're still missing lots of data for setting good benchmarks though. I tend to think that the more we use similar evaluation tools and share reports back into the pool, the smarter we'll all get about addressing the gender gap.
To that end, echoing the suggestion to visit the program evaluation portal: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation
Cheers! Siko
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 12:57 PM, J Hayes slowking4@gmail.com wrote:
yes, Wikimedia DC was using some opt in tracking of editathons outcomes. and reporting activity in annual report http://wikimediadc.org/wiki/Annual_report_%282012%E2%80%932013%29
there are some case studies at GLAM wiki
https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Case_studies/Archives_of_American_A...
but the evaluation team has the tools and methods they have a portal
https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/08/29/evaluation-portal-on-meta-a-redesigned...
jim hayes
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Lennart Guldbrandsson < l_guldbrandsson@hotmail.com> wrote:
I think that the evaluation team are working on other tools as well, but I am not sure. We haven't used their tools for our editathons, although they are probably better than our self-edited stats, since our goal is also to have fun :-)
Best wishes,
Lennart Guldbrandsson
070 - 207 80 05 http://www.*elementx*.se http://www.elementx.se *Skriv som ett proffs http://www.elementx.se/skriv-som-ett-proffs/* - min senaste bok Få regelbundna skrivtips direkt till din inkorg http://elementx.us7.list-manage1.com/subscribe?u=ab2080465c6cd11b5b253f940&id=8a2b974a62
@aliasHannibal http://twitter.com/AliasHannibal - på Twitter
"*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till **världens samlade kunskap* http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Huvudsida*. Det är vårt mål.*" Jimmy Wales
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 14:49:23 +0100
From: jane023@gmail.com To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Regular editathons in Sweden about women and literature
Thanks! I was told we are using some tools internally to track specific edit-a-thon outcomes - is this what you mean? We want to track more than just edit-a-thon outcomes though
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Lennart Guldbrandsson < l_guldbrandsson@hotmail.com> wrote:
Very cool! Good luck to you. Just a quick response to the first question:
I definitely think it's doable to get 5 editors to stay on for 5 months. The evaluation team should be able to help you with tools and guides to measure this.
My advice is to use the person-to-person method. That is, you invite a few female friends. Some will find it interesting. Make sure that it's a friendly space they come to. And some will come back. If you're a few regular people doing this, 5 should be on the low side for the Netherlands. We have about done it in Sweden without much effort, and with a little effort we could make it 10 (it's just been a busy time for me and a few others in the regular group).
Best wishes,
Lennart Guldbrandsson
070 - 207 80 05 http://www.*elementx*.se http://www.elementx.se *Skriv som ett proffs http://www.elementx.se/skriv-som-ett-proffs/* - min senaste bok Få regelbundna skrivtips direkt till din inkorg http://elementx.us7.list-manage1.com/subscribe?u=ab2080465c6cd11b5b253f940&id=8a2b974a62
@aliasHannibal http://twitter.com/AliasHannibal - på Twitter
"*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till **världens samlade kunskap* http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Huvudsida*. Det är vårt mål.*" Jimmy Wales
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 13:43:58 +0100 From: jane023@gmail.com To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Regular editathons in Sweden about women and literature
Hi Lennart and others, We had a short meeting yesterday in Utrecht to discuss the Gendergap and also our plans for the upcoming Art & Feminism weekend of 7 & 8 March. Wikimedia Netherlands will co-host an edit-a-thon at the Amsterdam Stedelijk Museum and we also plan to host an international writing challenge lasting the entire weekend, directed at experienced "challenge writers". Since WMNL has also set aside some funding for Gendergap this year, we were also talking about other plans. One thing that we decided to do is to set aside one "Wiki-Saturday" per month for the Gendergap in all of its Wiki(p/m)edia aspects, but with the emphasis on the social side of things as an in-person meetup. We will be announcing the "Saturday meetups" in the Stedelijk venue.
Based on our meeting, I have done some searching around and have the following questions:
- I was wondering if anyone had any measurable outcomes for such an
investment of time and funds? We tentatively had a year-target of attracting 5 new women editors that remain active for at least 5 months. I have doubts whether this is measurable or even realistic. Thoughts anyone? 2) I noticed that though we seem to have lots of women artists on Wikipedia, we are still missing articles about their artworks or list articles of their artworks. In a category on the English Wikipedia for "Lists of works of art" I noted an odd mish-mash of lists which include lists of works by 66 men and only 4 women (I just created the list for Judith Leyster and hope to make list articles for two more Dutch women artists before March). Would anyone here be interested in building a list of their favorite female artist? This will be a nice-to-have for 7&8 March writers browsing for something to write about, as most museums have works by women in the collections, but they are just not on show. If a work is in one of the national museums it is encyclopedic enough to write about.
Thanks in advance! Jane
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Lennart Guldbrandsson < l_guldbrandsson@hotmail.com> wrote:
My draft is now up at:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Blog/Drafts/Regular_editathons_in_...
Anyone who wants to help with grammar and other language stuff (English is my second language after all), feel free. Your help is appreciated.
Best wishes,
Lennart Guldbrandsson
070 - 207 80 05 http://www.elementx.se - arbete Skriv som ett proffs http://www.elementx.se/skriv-som-ett-proffs/ - min senaste bok http://www.mrchapel.wordpress.com - personlig blogg Presentation http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anv%c3%83%c2%a4ndare:Hannibal @aliasHannibal http://twitter.com/AliasHannibal - på Twitter
"*Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till **världens samlade kunskap* http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Huvudsida*. Det är vårt mål.*" Jimmy Wales
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 08:17:27 -0800 From: rosiestep.wiki@gmail.com To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Regular editathons in Sweden about women and literature
Big smile on my face... I love the idea of regular editathons. I've never been to a knitting/quilting circle but I imagine a group of women editing Wikipedia would have a similar look and feel. Piggy-backing on the WMDC "salons" might be a way forward as facilitating an "editathon" requires quite a bit of the facilitator, while a regularly scheduled editing-circle or editing-salon wouldn't require a facilitator at all. I think that would be easier to sustain and replicate.
-Rosie user:Rosiestep
_______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
_______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
_______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
-- Siko Bouterse Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
sbouterse@wikimedia.org
*Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. * *Donate https://donate.wikimedia.org or click the "edit" button today, and help us make it a reality!*
Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap