Hi Jay,
I would like to add our image to both the existing cafepress.com store and also your own storefront :-) I'd rather not have to do it separately from your storefront if I can avoid it. I'm finding the cafepress system a bit difficult. I expect that despite that you have allowed me to use the word Wikipedia, that their system will just auto-flag it and their policy of not using organisational names may still apply. It seems easier to just throw my lot in with yours if possible. One good thing about cafepress was that it had a good range of sizes to include larger sizes that we often can't find in our local stores.
regards
Rosie Williams
http://collectiveaction.com.au http://women4wikipedia.net
@collectiveact
Message: 3 Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 10:27:19 -0800 From: Jay Walsh jwalsh@wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Wikipedia Merchandise To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: 277B4DC6-3372-4F39-BA17-9B465CB33335@wikimedia.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi Rosie - I'm in the process of finalizing a new Wikimedia merch store that the Foundation will own and operate, which will ultimately replace (and decrease overhead/customer cost) cafepress.
You would be able to produce the designs with just the use of the name Wikipedia on cafepress or a similar service independently if you wish (and host those through women4wikipedia.net).
It's understandable that to promote activity relating to Wikipedia, you have to use the word. Use of the Wikipedia stylized name and/or the puzzle globe is a different matter.
I'm also in the process of developing some prospective design samples that I think would nicely complement the work of this group, and we could incorporate your logo and designs.
We hope to have the wikimedia storefront up and running by the end of the month - getting it ready to share with the community now. In the mean time you could place your designs on zazzle or cafepress on your own (via an independent storefront). I'm going to do some research into the current cafepress store to see if you could also add the design there until we wind the cafepress store down.
Thanks! jay walsh
On Mar 4, 2011, at 9:26 PM, Collective Action wrote:
Hi all,
I was wanting to create T-Shirts for sale to people supporting Women4Wikipedia using the images on the page found athttp://women4wikipedia.net
I was wondering if they could be added to the official merchandise shop on cafepress.com since the Wikipedia name may well be trademarked- besides it just seems the most logical way to go about it?
This is the page where the current cafepress.com designs were decided: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Merchandise
I'm not sure how to go about things from this point though and whether our designs can be used? The small header image is licenced CC0 but the larger image further down on the page is currently not in the public domain. I need to know what license is most appropriate should we be given permission to add it to the official Wikipedia merchandise designs. This larger image is also available in varying colours for different coloured T-shirts, as is the header.
regards Rosie Williams http://collectiveaction.com.au @collectiveact
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What Motivates Women - especially to write and edit? I think finding motivations many women share and tapping into those to encourage women to start and keep editing is key to this project
I'm an atypical task oriented political organizing/writing maniac, so I'm not the best judge :-) I know many women are busy with home duties and myself have found the last 10 years that elder dog/new young dog care and barter-for-rent-housekeeping certainly have taken up a lot of my time.
So I know it must be more for women with husbands, kids, elderly parents, etc. If I was working more than very part time (plus collecting social security), I wouldn't have the time.
But for those who can squeeze in a few hours a week, what might be their biggest kick/motivator for writing about topics of interest? If the motivation is strong enough, even dealing with the male culture and/or dominance problem is easier psychologically for those who inadvertently or purposively venture into articles where lots of garrulous males hangout.
Since many women (overly?) motivated by “selfless motives,” “Women: make the world a better and smarter place - edit Wikipedia!” Just a thought, based on part of my own motivation.
Anyway, feel free to brainstorm on this topic more with your own personal female motivation! :-)
Carol in DC
PS: FYI, re: the long “Women’s Café” discussion at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Feminism#Women.27s_C.... It did evolve into a Wikiproject Women idea, pretty much like the Feminism and LGBT projects. But at this point even other women-related projects are not getting many women contributing, so it seems premature to do another broader one. And there’s the chicken and egg problem - do we need a Wikiproject to make more women comfortable with staying or do need more women to support such a project??
What Motivates Women - especially to write and edit? I think finding motivations many women share and tapping into those to encourage women to start and keep editing is key to this project
I'm an atypical task oriented political organizing/writing maniac, so I'm not the best judge :-) I know many women are busy with home duties and myself have found the last 10 years that elder dog/new young dog care and barter-for-rent-housekeeping certainly have taken up a lot of my time.
So I know it must be more for women with husbands, kids, elderly parents, etc. If I was working more than very part time (plus collecting social security), I wouldn't have the time.
But for those who can squeeze in a few hours a week, what might be their biggest kick/motivator for writing about topics of interest? If the motivation is strong enough, even dealing with the male culture and/or dominance problem is easier psychologically for those who inadvertently or purposively venture into articles where lots of garrulous males hangout.
Since many women (overly?) motivated by selfless motives, Women: make the world a better and smarter place - edit Wikipedia! Just a thought, based on part of my own motivation.
Anyway, feel free to brainstorm on this topic more with your own personal female motivation! :-)
Carol in DC
PS: FYI, re: the long Womens Café discussion at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Feminism#Women.27s_C.... It did evolve into a Wikiproject Women idea, pretty much like the Feminism and LGBT projects. But at this point even other women-related projects are not getting many women contributing, so it seems premature to do another broader one. And theres the chicken and egg problem - do we need a Wikiproject to make more women comfortable with staying or do need more women to support such a project??
Having some experience in caring for elderly parents, that is one activity which, restricting your movement and forcing you to stay home, offers a great opportunity to get involved online.
Also I was talking to a woman at church who lives in a tiny town where she knows hardly anyone and her husband is gone all the time. She was very eager to find interesting things to do. Whether she will take up Wikipedia remains to be seen, but she is already online paying games. Having some technical problems though with her computer.
I guess one question is whether editing Wikipedia is fun and fulfilling for the individual.
Fred
Before I say anything: Happy International Women's Day, everyone!
Fred wrote:
Having some experience in caring for elderly parents, that is one activity which, restricting your movement and forcing you to stay home, offers a great opportunity to get involved online.
My response:
From the other end of that spectrum, having a young child, especially one
with some special needs, has the same effect. In my first years on Wikipedia I had a fair amount of childcare-related downtime (I'm the stay-at-home parent, more sort of by accident than design) when I couldn't just go out. So I killed time online.
Daniel Case