On Jul 20, 2013 10:36 AM, "Andreas Kolbe" jayen466@gmail.com wrote:
nice video. maybe I'll even go watch it a 2nd time. but…
I think it would generally be wise to avoid jumping to conclusions. There
was a great Guardian advert about this once:
LadyofShalott and Drmies are friends. She has 1200 edits to his talk
page, he has 400 to hers.
I don't see the relevance of any of that.
quoting Fluffernutter (from earlier in this thread):
But I did all those things, Powers. I said that I knew it was supposed to
be humourous and that LoS might not personally mind it, and I said that my concern was for other people reading it.
so…
It doesn't matter if LoS and Drmies are friends.
It doesn't matter if the original post could be justified or acceptable from 3 perspectives/interpretations.
What does matter is that a substantial (non-trivial) number of people had objections to it (or possibly even interpreted it as Carol did).
-Jeremy
Jeremy,
It's a question of proportionality. Right now, I feel sorrier for Drmies than I do for women on Wikipedia.
There are really better targets to pick on in Wikipedia than a guy who is known to engage in flowery and humorous prose wishing his friend a happy birthday.
Andreas
On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Jeremy Baron jeremy@tuxmachine.com wrote:
On Jul 20, 2013 10:36 AM, "Andreas Kolbe" jayen466@gmail.com wrote:
nice video. maybe I'll even go watch it a 2nd time. but…
I think it would generally be wise to avoid jumping to conclusions.
There was a great Guardian advert about this once:
LadyofShalott and Drmies are friends. She has 1200 edits to his talk
page, he has 400 to hers.
I don't see the relevance of any of that.
quoting Fluffernutter (from earlier in this thread):
But I did all those things, Powers. I said that I knew it was supposed
to be humourous and that LoS might not personally mind it, and I said that my concern was for other people reading it.
so…
It doesn't matter if LoS and Drmies are friends.
It doesn't matter if the original post could be justified or acceptable from 3 perspectives/interpretations.
What does matter is that a substantial (non-trivial) number of people had objections to it (or possibly even interpreted it as Carol did).
-Jeremy
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On 7/20/2013 11:28 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
Jeremy,
It's a question of proportionality. Right now, I feel sorrier for Drmies than I do for women on Wikipedia.
There are really better targets to pick on in Wikipedia than a guy who is known to engage in flowery and humorous prose wishing his friend a happy birthday.
Andreas
Again MOST editors will NOT know that a) this editor engages in flowery humor and b) it is his friend.
Therefore they will interpret it from THEIR view point, not that of people who know those facts...
Imagine you read this was the message on WP:ANI:
"Let's call a spade a spade; editor Jack_Black_from_Harlem is a closet fat ass !"
Would most people think that the editor was a friend making gentle fun of him or take this suggestive comment as some sort of racist and possibly homophobic or anti-fat people comment?