http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2014/10/09/polish-town-to-have-monument-honoring... "Polish town to have monument honoring Wikipedia"
The lack of anatomical precision did confuse me a bit as to whether male or female. Others pointed out narrow hips and broad shoulders indicated male. But this is Catholic Poland. Not Dutch Amsterdam or Venice Italy. So of course they aren't going to show the explicit sexual details. /
Perhaps the Wikipedia Powers that Be could write a nice letter explaining how they should have at least one woman in there? That would be really great!/
I thought it was going up a year from now, but it's this October, so a bit late. But hopefully they have or ''will have'' a plaque mentioning women editors. Actually, it's probably best that Polish Wikipedia women editors approach whom so ever.
But for the heck of it, I found the Polish article on the statue and asked the question on the talk page, using my best Google Translate polish. :-)
[https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja:Pomnik_Wikipedii
I see there is a Polish Gender gap project but don't have energy right now to see what their input was, https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiprojekt:Gender_Studies
Better late than never noticed a Polish Gender studies group so left message there too. https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikiprojektu:Gender_Studies#Pomnik_Wi...
CM
On 10/10/2014 2:04 PM, Carol Moore dc wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2014/10/09/polish-town-to-have-monument-honoring... "Polish town to have monument honoring Wikipedia"
The lack of anatomical precision did confuse me a bit as to whether male or female. Others pointed out narrow hips and broad shoulders indicated male. But this is Catholic Poland. Not Dutch Amsterdam or Venice Italy. So of course they aren't going to show the explicit sexual details. /
Perhaps the Wikipedia Powers that Be could write a nice letter explaining how they should have at least one woman in there? That would be really great!/
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According to Polish women participants on the WikiWomen's Collaborative Facebook, this has been a source of frustration and has been discussed by the Polish community. Originally, there were going to be to female and two male figures, but, that was..scrapped for whatever reason.
We've had a lot of lively discussion on it via Facebook!
https://www.facebook.com/WikiWomensCollaborative
-Sarah
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Carol Moore dc carolmooredc@verizon.net wrote:
I thought it was going up a year from now, but it's this October, so a bit late. But hopefully they have or ''will have'' a plaque mentioning women editors. Actually, it's probably best that Polish Wikipedia women editors approach whom so ever.
But for the heck of it, I found the Polish article on the statue and asked the question on the talk page, using my best Google Translate polish. :-)
[https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja:Pomnik_Wikipedii
I see there is a Polish Gender gap project but don't have energy right now to see what their input was, https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiprojekt:Gender_Studies
Better late than never noticed a Polish Gender studies group so left message there too.
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikiprojektu:Gender_Studies#Pomnik_Wi...
CM
On 10/10/2014 2:04 PM, Carol Moore dc wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2014/10/09/polish-town-to-have-monument-honoring... "Polish town to have monument honoring Wikipedia"
The lack of anatomical precision did confuse me a bit as to whether male or female. Others pointed out narrow hips and broad shoulders indicated male. But this is Catholic Poland. Not Dutch Amsterdam or Venice Italy. So of course they aren't going to show the explicit sexual details.
- Perhaps the Wikipedia Powers that Be could write a nice letter
explaining how they should have at least one woman in there? That would be really great!*
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Solution. Get some women to put on bodysuits and bathing caps and photograph them holding up a large WP logo. Fix the details in Photoshop as required. Put the image on Commons, ask WP women to put it on their User page, share it with friends on social media, etc. Ensure this photo is more widely available than that of the actual statue.
Kerry
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From: gendergap-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:gendergap-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Sarah Stierch Sent: Saturday, 11 October 2014 5:00 AM To: Addressing gender equity and exploring ways to increase the participationof women within Wikimedia projects. Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Update: Re: Polish Wikipedia Monument shows only men
According to Polish women participants on the WikiWomen's Collaborative Facebook, this has been a source of frustration and has been discussed by the Polish community. Originally, there were going to be to female and two male figures, but, that was..scrapped for whatever reason.
We've had a lot of lively discussion on it via Facebook!
https://www.facebook.com/WikiWomensCollaborative
-Sarah
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Carol Moore dc carolmooredc@verizon.net wrote:
I thought it was going up a year from now, but it's this October, so a bit late. But hopefully they have or ''will have'' a plaque mentioning women editors. Actually, it's probably best that Polish Wikipedia women editors approach whom so ever.
But for the heck of it, I found the Polish article on the statue and asked the question on the talk page, using my best Google Translate polish. :-)
[https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja:Pomnik_Wikipedii
I see there is a Polish Gender gap project but don't have energy right now to see what their input was, https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiprojekt:Gender_Studies
Better late than never noticed a Polish Gender studies group so left message there too. https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikiprojektu:Gender_Studies#Pomnik_Wi kipedii.3F
CM
On 10/10/2014 2:04 PM, Carol Moore dc wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2014/10/09/polish-town-to-have-monument-honoring -wikipedia/?intcmp=obmod_ffo http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2014/10/09/polish-town-to-have-monument-honorin g-wikipedia/?intcmp=obmod_ffo&intcmp=obnetwork &intcmp=obnetwork "Polish town to have monument honoring Wikipedia"
The lack of anatomical precision did confuse me a bit as to whether male or female. Others pointed out narrow hips and broad shoulders indicated male. But this is Catholic Poland. Not Dutch Amsterdam or Venice Italy. So of course they aren't going to show the explicit sexual details.
Perhaps the Wikipedia Powers that Be could write a nice letter explaining how they should have at least one woman in there? That would be really great!
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Ha ha, that's a great idea.
Group Halloween costume anyone? :)
-Sar
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 7:14 PM, Kerry Raymond kerry.raymond@gmail.com wrote:
Solution. Get some women to put on bodysuits and bathing caps andphotograph them holding up a large WP logo. Fix the details in Photoshop as required. Put the image on Commons, ask WP women to put it on their User page, share it with friends on social media, etc. Ensure this photo is more widely available than that of the actual statue.
Kerry
*From:* gendergap-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: gendergap-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Sarah Stierch *Sent:* Saturday, 11 October 2014 5:00 AM *To:* Addressing gender equity and exploring ways to increase the participationof women within Wikimedia projects. *Subject:* Re: [Gendergap] Update: Re: Polish Wikipedia Monument shows only men
According to Polish women participants on the WikiWomen's Collaborative Facebook, this has been a source of frustration and has been discussed by the Polish community. Originally, there were going to be to female and two male figures, but, that was..scrapped for whatever reason.
We've had a lot of lively discussion on it via Facebook!
https://www.facebook.com/WikiWomensCollaborative
-Sarah
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Carol Moore dc carolmooredc@verizon.net wrote:
I thought it was going up a year from now, but it's this October, so a bit late. But hopefully they have or ''will have'' a plaque mentioning women editors. Actually, it's probably best that Polish Wikipedia women editors approach whom so ever.
But for the heck of it, I found the Polish article on the statue and asked the question on the talk page, using my best Google Translate polish. :-)
[https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja:Pomnik_Wikipedii
I see there is a Polish Gender gap project but don't have energy right now to see what their input was, https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiprojekt:Gender_Studies
Better late than never noticed a Polish Gender studies group so left message there too.
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikiprojektu:Gender_Studies#Pomnik_Wi...
CM
On 10/10/2014 2:04 PM, Carol Moore dc wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2014/10/09/polish-town-to-have-monument-honoring... "Polish town to have monument honoring Wikipedia"
The lack of anatomical precision did confuse me a bit as to whether male or female. Others pointed out narrow hips and broad shoulders indicated male. But this is Catholic Poland. Not Dutch Amsterdam or Venice Italy. So of course they aren't going to show the explicit sexual details.
- Perhaps the Wikipedia Powers that Be could write a nice letter
explaining how they should have at least one woman in there? That would be really great!*
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I'm not sure if it is really going to show only men. According to these pictures (illustrating an article about the factory where the monument is being prepared so it seems quite reliable) there are going to be 2 female figures. http://www.strefabiznesu.gazetalubuska.pl/artykul/w-nowosolskim-malpolu-pows... The original project also included two women. So there is hope :)
I'm going to attend the unveiling as an official representative of Wikimedia Poland so I will do an on-site inspection and I will let you know ;)
2014-10-11 4:27 GMT+02:00 Sarah Stierch sarah.stierch@gmail.com:
Ha ha, that's a great idea.
Group Halloween costume anyone? :)
-Sar
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 7:14 PM, Kerry Raymond kerry.raymond@gmail.com wrote:
Solution. Get some women to put on bodysuits and bathing caps andphotograph them holding up a large WP logo. Fix the details in Photoshop as required. Put the image on Commons, ask WP women to put it on their User page, share it with friends on social media, etc. Ensure this photo is more widely available than that of the actual statue.
Kerry
*From:* gendergap-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: gendergap-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Sarah Stierch *Sent:* Saturday, 11 October 2014 5:00 AM *To:* Addressing gender equity and exploring ways to increase the participationof women within Wikimedia projects. *Subject:* Re: [Gendergap] Update: Re: Polish Wikipedia Monument shows only men
According to Polish women participants on the WikiWomen's Collaborative Facebook, this has been a source of frustration and has been discussed by the Polish community. Originally, there were going to be to female and two male figures, but, that was..scrapped for whatever reason.
We've had a lot of lively discussion on it via Facebook!
https://www.facebook.com/WikiWomensCollaborative
-Sarah
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Carol Moore dc < carolmooredc@verizon.net> wrote:
I thought it was going up a year from now, but it's this October, so a bit late. But hopefully they have or ''will have'' a plaque mentioning women editors. Actually, it's probably best that Polish Wikipedia women editors approach whom so ever.
But for the heck of it, I found the Polish article on the statue and asked the question on the talk page, using my best Google Translate polish. :-)
[https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja:Pomnik_Wikipedii
I see there is a Polish Gender gap project but don't have energy right now to see what their input was, https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiprojekt:Gender_Studies
Better late than never noticed a Polish Gender studies group so left message there too.
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikiprojektu:Gender_Studies#Pomnik_Wi...
CM
On 10/10/2014 2:04 PM, Carol Moore dc wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2014/10/09/polish-town-to-have-monument-honoring... "Polish town to have monument honoring Wikipedia"
The lack of anatomical precision did confuse me a bit as to whether male or female. Others pointed out narrow hips and broad shoulders indicated male. But this is Catholic Poland. Not Dutch Amsterdam or Venice Italy. So of course they aren't going to show the explicit sexual details.
- Perhaps the Wikipedia Powers that Be could write a nice letter
explaining how they should have at least one woman in there? That would be really great!*
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Great Natalia!
We cannot wait to see the pictures and hear your inspection notes :)
-Sarah
On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Natalia antyterra@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not sure if it is really going to show only men. According to these pictures (illustrating an article about the factory where the monument is being prepared so it seems quite reliable) there are going to be 2 female figures.
http://www.strefabiznesu.gazetalubuska.pl/artykul/w-nowosolskim-malpolu-pows... The original project also included two women. So there is hope :)
I'm going to attend the unveiling as an official representative of Wikimedia Poland so I will do an on-site inspection and I will let you know ;)
2014-10-11 4:27 GMT+02:00 Sarah Stierch sarah.stierch@gmail.com:
Ha ha, that's a great idea.
Group Halloween costume anyone? :)
-Sar
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 7:14 PM, Kerry Raymond kerry.raymond@gmail.com wrote:
Solution. Get some women to put on bodysuits and bathing caps andphotograph them holding up a large WP logo. Fix the details in Photoshop as required. Put the image on Commons, ask WP women to put it on their User page, share it with friends on social media, etc. Ensure this photo is more widely available than that of the actual statue.
Kerry
*From:* gendergap-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: gendergap-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Sarah Stierch *Sent:* Saturday, 11 October 2014 5:00 AM *To:* Addressing gender equity and exploring ways to increase the participationof women within Wikimedia projects. *Subject:* Re: [Gendergap] Update: Re: Polish Wikipedia Monument shows only men
According to Polish women participants on the WikiWomen's Collaborative Facebook, this has been a source of frustration and has been discussed by the Polish community. Originally, there were going to be to female and two male figures, but, that was..scrapped for whatever reason.
We've had a lot of lively discussion on it via Facebook!
https://www.facebook.com/WikiWomensCollaborative
-Sarah
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Carol Moore dc < carolmooredc@verizon.net> wrote:
I thought it was going up a year from now, but it's this October, so a bit late. But hopefully they have or ''will have'' a plaque mentioning women editors. Actually, it's probably best that Polish Wikipedia women editors approach whom so ever.
But for the heck of it, I found the Polish article on the statue and asked the question on the talk page, using my best Google Translate polish. :-)
[https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja:Pomnik_Wikipedii
I see there is a Polish Gender gap project but don't have energy right now to see what their input was, https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiprojekt:Gender_Studies
Better late than never noticed a Polish Gender studies group so left message there too.
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikiprojektu:Gender_Studies#Pomnik_Wi...
CM
On 10/10/2014 2:04 PM, Carol Moore dc wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2014/10/09/polish-town-to-have-monument-honoring... "Polish town to have monument honoring Wikipedia"
The lack of anatomical precision did confuse me a bit as to whether male or female. Others pointed out narrow hips and broad shoulders indicated male. But this is Catholic Poland. Not Dutch Amsterdam or Venice Italy. So of course they aren't going to show the explicit sexual details.
- Perhaps the Wikipedia Powers that Be could write a nice letter
explaining how they should have at least one woman in there? That would be really great!*
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If it be so... hallelujah!
Lightbreather
On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Natalia antyterra@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not sure if it is really going to show only men. According to these pictures (illustrating an article about the factory where the monument is being prepared so it seems quite reliable) there are going to be 2 female figures.
http://www.strefabiznesu.gazetalubuska.pl/artykul/w-nowosolskim-malpolu-pows... The original project also included two women. So there is hope :)
I'm going to attend the unveiling as an official representative of Wikimedia Poland so I will do an on-site inspection and I will let you know ;)
I have just recived an e-mail from the organizers of the unveiling. They assured me that two of the figures are female. So no gender gap here :-) 11 paź 2014 20:05 "LB" lightbreather2@gmail.com napisał(a):
If it be so... hallelujah!
Lightbreather
On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Natalia antyterra@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not sure if it is really going to show only men. According to these pictures (illustrating an article about the factory where the monument is being prepared so it seems quite reliable) there are going to be 2 female figures.
http://www.strefabiznesu.gazetalubuska.pl/artykul/w-nowosolskim-malpolu-pows... The original project also included two women. So there is hope :)
I'm going to attend the unveiling as an official representative of Wikimedia Poland so I will do an on-site inspection and I will let you know ;)
Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
WOOHOo!
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Natalia antyterra@gmail.com wrote:
I have just recived an e-mail from the organizers of the unveiling. They assured me that two of the figures are female. So no gender gap here :-) 11 paź 2014 20:05 "LB" lightbreather2@gmail.com napisał(a):
If it be so... hallelujah!
Lightbreather
On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Natalia antyterra@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not sure if it is really going to show only men. According to these pictures (illustrating an article about the factory where the monument is being prepared so it seems quite reliable) there are going to be 2 female figures.
http://www.strefabiznesu.gazetalubuska.pl/artykul/w-nowosolskim-malpolu-pows... The original project also included two women. So there is hope :)
I'm going to attend the unveiling as an official representative of Wikimedia Poland so I will do an on-site inspection and I will let you know ;)
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Well I suppose it would be more technically accurate if 1 of 4, not 2 of 4 were women
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 11:34 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stierch@gmail.com wrote:
WOOHOo!
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Natalia antyterra@gmail.com wrote:
I have just recived an e-mail from the organizers of the unveiling. They assured me that two of the figures are female. So no gender gap here :-) 11 paź 2014 20:05 "LB" lightbreather2@gmail.com napisał(a):
If it be so... hallelujah!
Lightbreather
On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Natalia antyterra@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not sure if it is really going to show only men. According to these pictures (illustrating an article about the factory where the monument is being prepared so it seems quite reliable) there are going to be 2 female figures.
http://www.strefabiznesu.gazetalubuska.pl/artykul/w-nowosolskim-malpolu-pows... The original project also included two women. So there is hope :)
I'm going to attend the unveiling as an official representative of Wikimedia Poland so I will do an on-site inspection and I will let you know ;)
Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
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