Hi!. First, I apologize for my English .. I do not use it very much and have it
"rusty" XD.
IMHO, we need more information to analyze correctly the matter, since
the case of the women is not the same in the USA that in the old Europe
or in the emergent countries. I think perhaps a worldwide estatistic,
made by a specialized enterprise, was helping us to have a more wide
vision.
Every Chapter can to take charge doing a questionnaire with the
questions most adapted to his social reality and giving it to the
Statistics enterprise.
They are only ideas..
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:57:44 -0800 (PST)
From: patricia morales <mariadelcarmenpatricia(a)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] [Gendergap : A suggestion: Towards 100.000 F.
articles in Wikipedia
To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects
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Everyone is very welcome!I would like to explain what I trying to say. The idea was only
to emphasise the participatory role of women in this process.?There are several historical
gaps (black people, women, young people, "underdeveloped" countries, ea.) and
suddenly people want to solve them, and at the same time exclude the group to be benefited
in the process.
Patricia
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From: ChaoticFluffy <chaoticfluffy(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] [Gendergap : A suggestion: Towards 100.000 F. articles in
Wikipedia
To: "Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects"
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Date: Wednesday, February 9, 2011, 1:43 PM
I agree with Oliver - a female-friendly space need not, and should not, be a space with no
males allowed. It should simply be one with everyone behaving in a manner friendly to
females, and there's nothing in that that says at least some men are unwilling or
unable to do that. If we start gating off areas of the wiki, we're not doing women any
favors.
-Karen
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Oliver Keyes <scire.facias(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:26 PM, patricia morales <mariadelcarmenpatricia(a)yahoo.com>
wrote:
It seems very interesting to create a female-friend space for overcoming gradually the
gendergap. Some women would like to participate suggesting new topics, their interests
(for example more articles on the women?s role in the African microeconomy, or female
Nobel Awards, etc). They can provide some opinions or suggestions on the undercovered
male-oriented use of language in articles or pictures of Wikipedia, etc.
I believe that the leadership of this process has to be in various female hands, taking
solidarity as a major principle. When we take a look at history, we can see that women
primarily avoid the use of violence and war. Matriarcal peoples or ctonic religions (where
there is an identification between the Earth and the woman) are interesting examples.
The thing that worries me about this suggestion is that it's effectively sectioning
off and segregating a portion of wikipedia's community. Solidarity is all well and
good, but if the idea is to encourage more women to get involved in the community, the
answer can't be to disect that community.
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