On 2/9/11, SlimVirgin slimvirgin@gmail.com wrote:
Ideas for a name -- "Wikipedia Women's Week" (or Month) or just "Wikipedia Women".
This really is only tangentially related (hence the change in subject name), but the comments above gave me the idea for a Facebook Group, "Wikipedia Women" or "Women Wikipedians". There does not seem to be anything of that sort in existence. Do you think there'd be any interest in starting one? I'm not sure how much use it would get - that would depend entirely on the people who joined. It would be a way though for those of us who do participate both in Wikipedia and Facebook to tell our friends that we do... and perhaps be a subtle nudge to their trying it as well.
Thoughts?
Aleta User:LadyofShalott
~~~~~~~~ "Beauty is before me, and beauty is behind me, above me and below me hovers the beautiful... In beauty it is begun. In beauty, it is ended." -Navaho
Aleta - I LOVE that idea!!! Yes for me.
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 13, 2011, at 2:09 AM, Lady of Shalott ladyofshalott.wp@gmail.com wrote:
On 2/9/11, SlimVirgin slimvirgin@gmail.com wrote:
Ideas for a name -- "Wikipedia Women's Week" (or Month) or just "Wikipedia Women".
This really is only tangentially related (hence the change in subject name), but the comments above gave me the idea for a Facebook Group, "Wikipedia Women" or "Women Wikipedians". There does not seem to be anything of that sort in existence. Do you think there'd be any interest in starting one? I'm not sure how much use it would get - that would depend entirely on the people who joined. It would be a way though for those of us who do participate both in Wikipedia and Facebook to tell our friends that we do... and perhaps be a subtle nudge to their trying it as well.
Thoughts?
Aleta User:LadyofShalott
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On the basis of Sandra's yes, I've gone ahead and created a group, "Wikipedia Women". http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_111731472234343
Please join if you are so inclined!
Aleta/LadyofShalott
On 2/13/11, Sandra sandratordonez@gmail.com wrote:
Aleta - I LOVE that idea!!! Yes for me. Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 13, 2011, at 2:09 AM, Lady of Shalott ladyofshalott.wp@gmail.com wrote:
On 2/9/11, SlimVirgin slimvirgin@gmail.com wrote:
Ideas for a name -- "Wikipedia Women's Week" (or Month) or just "Wikipedia Women".
This really is only tangentially related (hence the change in subject name), but the comments above gave me the idea for a Facebook Group, "Wikipedia Women" or "Women Wikipedians". There does not seem to be anything of that sort in existence. Do you think there'd be any interest in starting one? I'm not sure how much use it would get - that would depend entirely on the people who joined. It would be a way though for those of us who do participate both in Wikipedia and Facebook to tell our friends that we do... and perhaps be a subtle nudge to their trying it as well.
Thoughts?
Aleta User:LadyofShalott
This brings up an issue I'm confused about, perhaps people could clarify.
Until the New York Times article and the various public criticisms that followed, including by Wikipedia editors, I somehow got the impression one could get blocked or banned for saying critical things *off Wikipedia* about WIkipedia, or discussing generally details of different editing disputes, or even sharing details of off Wikipedia harassment - *even if you carefully did Not* post any names of editors or direct links to anything that might identify them. (And I was of course worried that the double standard would raise its head vs. me, when other editors might get away with it.)
Are such general criticisms and discussions off wikipedia OK, just in case people were to post such things on face book or WikiChix lists or other forums? I think it's good to clarify.
(Plus, right now I have a really obnoxious situation of off wiki harassment with a probable ex-editor and I want to say that I think he is a former editor without naming names or providing further evidence, so it is today's concern.)
Thanks!!
On 2/13/2011 3:56 PM, Lady of Shalott wrote:
On the basis of Sandra's yes, I've gone ahead and created a group, "Wikipedia Women". http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_111731472234343
Please join if you are so inclined!
Aleta/LadyofShalott
This brings up an issue I'm confused about, perhaps people could clarify.
Until the New York Times article and the various public criticisms that followed, including by Wikipedia editors, I somehow got the impression one could get blocked or banned for saying critical things *off Wikipedia* about WIkipedia, or discussing generally details of different editing disputes, or even sharing details of off Wikipedia harassment - *even if you carefully did Not* post any names of editors or direct links to anything that might identify them. (And I was of course worried that the double standard would raise its head vs. me, when other editors might get away with it.)
Are such general criticisms and discussions off wikipedia OK, just in case people were to post such things on face book or WikiChix lists or other forums? I think it's good to clarify.
(Plus, right now I have a really obnoxious situation of off wiki harassment with a probable ex-editor and I want to say that I think he is a former editor without naming names or providing further evidence, so it is today's concern.)
Thanks!!
General criticisms and discussions regarding Wikipedia are acceptable; I've been doing it for years without reprisal and only the mildest criticism. The dividing line is hard to precisely define but is no different for women than men (of course, I would say that). But calling the other editor's employer, wife, mother, etc is over the line, as are death threats. Attempts to out them in public forums may be, but interpretations of that can vary as their identity may be public knowledge if researched. It comes down to personal malice or harassment as opposed to disagreements over policy or content.
Not a very good answer, I know but how we will react kind of depends on what sort of activities you engage in and how it feels. I suppose I could tell you to act like a lady...
If you are being harassed you might contact the functionaries at functionaries-en@lists.wikimedia.org and we'll see if we can't help you.
Fred