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Sarah Stierch

26 Sep 2011 26 Sep '11

1:20 p.m.

Hi everyone, I've had a few conversations, and heard/read a number of comments about the term "WikiChix." Now I've never been much of a "chick", and it seems other women tend to agree in the terminology as being a bit...hokey, old school and not the most contemporary. I'd like to see how we can re-develop the concept into something else. I've been using just the simple term of "Women in Wikimedia" etc, but I know that's not the most quirky or exciting sound term when it comes to trying to be clever at a luncheon or whatever. There's also the "Women of Wikimedia" but "WoW"...hehe... "Oh is this a Warcraft meet-up?" I also joined the WikiChix mailing list over a month and ago and there has been no activity. I'm starting to think perhaps we can retire the term for the sake of contemporary thinking. But, perhaps I'm just being uber and everyone thinks it's the cutest name ever and should be kept. Thoughts? -Sarah -- GLAMWIKI Partnership Ambassador for Wikimedia <http://www.glamwiki.org> Wikipedian-in-Residence, Archives of American Art<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SarahStierch> and Sarah Stierch Consulting *Historical, cultural & artistic research & advising.* ------------------------------------------------------ http://www.sarahstierch.com/

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Orsolya Gyenes

26 Sep 26 Sep

1:27 p.m.

I've been using the term "wikiwoman" for years now, and it was fine in the Hungarian Community. *~Orsolya* 2011/9/26 Sarah Stierch <sarah.stierch(a)gmail.com>

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John Vandenberg

1:41 p.m.

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stierch(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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If you contribute to Wikisource, you can become a wikisourcerer, which has a nice ring to it.. -- John Vandenberg

Emily Monroe

9:56 p.m.

I don't think I've heard/read "chick" for several years. From, Emily On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 8:41 AM, John Vandenberg <jayvdb(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stierch(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Hi everyone, I've had a few conversations, and heard/read a number of comments about

the

term "WikiChix." Now I've never been much of a "chick", and it seems

other

women tend to agree in the terminology as being a bit...hokey, old school and not the most contemporary. I'd like to see how we can re-develop the concept into something else.

I've

been using just the simple term of "Women in Wikimedia" etc, but I know that's not the most quirky or exciting sound term when it comes to trying

be clever at a luncheon or whatever. There's also the "Women of

Wikimedia"

but "WoW"...hehe... "Oh is this a Warcraft meet-up?" I also joined the WikiChix mailing list over a month and ago and there

has

been no activity. I'm starting to think perhaps we can retire the term

for

the sake of contemporary thinking. But, perhaps I'm just being uber and everyone thinks it's the cutest name ever and should be kept. Thoughts?

If you contribute to Wikisource, you can become a wikisourcerer, which has a nice ring to it.. -- John Vandenberg _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap

Nicole Willson

10:15 p.m.

Some of your probably already know this but the term "chix" references the LinuxChix movement. But if it's spoken and not written, it could very easily come off as 70s throwback. On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Emily Monroe <emilymonroe03(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:

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I don't think I've heard/read "chick" for several years. From, Emily On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 8:41 AM, John Vandenberg <jayvdb(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stierch(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Hi everyone, I've had a few conversations, and heard/read a number of comments about

the

term "WikiChix." Now I've never been much of a "chick", and it seems

other

women tend to agree in the terminology as being a bit...hokey, old

school

and not the most contemporary. I'd like to see how we can re-develop the concept into something else.

I've

been using just the simple term of "Women in Wikimedia" etc, but I know that's not the most quirky or exciting sound term when it comes to

trying to

be clever at a luncheon or whatever. There's also the "Women of

Wikimedia"

but "WoW"...hehe... "Oh is this a Warcraft meet-up?" I also joined the WikiChix mailing list over a month and ago and there

has

been no activity. I'm starting to think perhaps we can retire the term

for

the sake of contemporary thinking. But, perhaps I'm just being uber and everyone thinks it's the cutest

name

ever and should be kept. Thoughts?

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Emily Monroe

11:41 p.m.

My older brother is a Linux nerd, but I haven't heard of the LinuxChix movement. From, Emily On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Nicole Willson <artisticaltruist(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:

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I don't think I've heard/read "chick" for several years. From, Emily On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 8:41 AM, John Vandenberg <jayvdb(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stierch(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Hi everyone, I've had a few conversations, and heard/read a number of comments about

the

term "WikiChix." Now I've never been much of a "chick", and it seems

other

women tend to agree in the terminology as being a bit...hokey, old

school

and not the most contemporary. I'd like to see how we can re-develop the concept into something else.

I've

been using just the simple term of "Women in Wikimedia" etc, but I know that's not the most quirky or exciting sound term when it comes to

trying to

be clever at a luncheon or whatever. There's also the "Women of

Wikimedia"

but "WoW"...hehe... "Oh is this a Warcraft meet-up?" I also joined the WikiChix mailing list over a month and ago and there

has

been no activity. I'm starting to think perhaps we can retire the term

for

the sake of contemporary thinking. But, perhaps I'm just being uber and everyone thinks it's the cutest

name

ever and should be kept. Thoughts?

_______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap

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Sarah Stierch

11:53 p.m.

http://www.linuxchix.org/ I suppose it sounds a bit more badass with Linux because..well..the x's and they have an awesome Tank Girl inspired mascot. We just have Wikipe-tan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipe-tan :( "The personification of Wikipedia" Turns out there is a Commons-tan also, who looks more like Strawberry Shortcake meets "Raspberry Beret" by Prince: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Commons-tan.png http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawberry_Shortcake http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Beret -Sarah On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Emily Monroe <emilymonroe03(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:

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My older brother is a Linux nerd, but I haven't heard of the LinuxChix movement. From, Emily On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Nicole Willson < artisticaltruist(a)gmail.com> wrote:

I don't think I've heard/read "chick" for several years. From, Emily On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 8:41 AM, John Vandenberg <jayvdb(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Sarah Stierch < sarah.stierch(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I've had a few conversations, and heard/read a number of comments about the > term "WikiChix." Now I've never been much of a "chick", and it seems other > women tend to agree in the terminology as being a bit...hokey, old school > and not the most contemporary. > > I'd like to see how we can re-develop the concept into something else. I've > been using just the simple term of "Women in Wikimedia" etc, but I know > that's not the most quirky or exciting sound term when it comes to trying to > be clever at a luncheon or whatever. There's also the "Women of Wikimedia" > but "WoW"...hehe... "Oh is this a Warcraft meet-up?" > > I also joined the WikiChix mailing list over a month and ago and there has > been no activity. I'm starting to think perhaps we can retire the term for > the sake of contemporary thinking. > > But, perhaps I'm just being uber and everyone thinks it's the cutest name > ever and should be kept. > > Thoughts? If you contribute to Wikisource, you can become a wikisourcerer, which has a nice ring to it.. -- John Vandenberg _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap

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