There's a list of missing women scientists over at WikiProject Women Scientists and another at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dsp13/Biographical_Dictionary_of_Women_in_.... We are still missing a ton of women scientists, and they are usually perfect candidates for DYK! (unsubtle plug was unsubtle...)
But seriously, that's another good resource for missing articles on notable women.
Kei
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Ole Palnatoke Andersen, 28/05/2013 23:40:
Wow. I copied the list to Danish Wikipedia (but didn't save - only preview), and *one* link turned blue there: http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matilde_Bajer
it.wiki has several but usually existing elsewhere too... except https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Herrera But luckily also not models: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esther_Mujawayo (this is an Italian publisher's merit).
Nemo
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<shameless plug>Some of the recent fellows and foreign members of the Royal Society can do with articles too - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_Fellows_of_the_Royal_Society , with others expanded</>
KTC
On 29 May 2013 13:53, keilanawiki@gmail.com keilanawiki@gmail.com wrote:
There's a list of missing women scientists over at WikiProject Women Scientists and another at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dsp13/Biographical_Dictionary_of_Women_in_... are still missing a ton of women scientists, and they are usually perfect candidates for DYK! (unsubtle plug was unsubtle...)
But seriously, that's another good resource for missing articles on notable women.
Kei
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----- Reply message ----- From: "Federico Leva (Nemo)" nemowiki@gmail.com To: "Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects" < gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org> Cc: "Ole Palnatoke Andersen" ole@palnatoke.org Subject: [Gendergap] Crazy big list of red links about women subjects Date: Wed, May 29, 2013 3:33 AM
Ole Palnatoke Andersen, 28/05/2013 23:40:
Wow. I copied the list to Danish Wikipedia (but didn't save - only preview), and *one* link turned blue there: http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matilde_Bajer
it.wiki has several but usually existing elsewhere too... except https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Herrera But luckily also not models: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esther_Mujawayo (this is an Italian publisher's merit).
Nemo
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Perhaps we can have these lists combined.
I don't have time to do it right now. It'd maybe be good to have the large list made more public someplace.
WP Women's History or something, and I advise the same for other languages.
If people knew this list existed, we could get some progress made on it. And having it on user spaces and scattered in various places doesn't help much.
Just a suggestion. Perhaps someone can be be bold and do it (since I can't!)
Sarah
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Katie Chan katie.chan@wikimedia.org.ukwrote:
<shameless plug>Some of the recent fellows and foreign members of the Royal Society can do with articles too - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_Fellows_of_the_Royal_Society , with others expanded</>
KTC
On 29 May 2013 13:53, keilanawiki@gmail.com keilanawiki@gmail.com wrote:
There's a list of missing women scientists over at WikiProject Women Scientists and another at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dsp13/Biographical_Dictionary_of_Women_in_... are still missing a ton of women scientists, and they are usually perfect candidates for DYK! (unsubtle plug was unsubtle...)
But seriously, that's another good resource for missing articles on notable women.
Kei
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Ole Palnatoke Andersen, 28/05/2013 23:40:
Wow. I copied the list to Danish Wikipedia (but didn't save - only preview), and *one* link turned blue there: http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matilde_Bajer
it.wiki has several but usually existing elsewhere too... except https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Herrera But luckily also not models: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esther_Mujawayo (this is an Italian publisher's merit).
Nemo
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On 29 May 2013 10:58, Sarah Stierch sarah.stierch@gmail.com wrote:
Perhaps we can have these lists combined.
Actually, I'd really suggest not doing that, or only having links to
smaller lists in a central location. With the exception of DSP's list, each of these lists is small enough to feel "achievable", but putting them into one really big list makes the task look and feel overwhelming. Creating 10 articles in a smaller grouping makes a significant dent. Creating 10 articles on DSP's list barely scratches the surface, and I'd question whether such a redlist actually constitutes a reasonable working list even just considering its smaller chunks. A passing mention in a single book, or membership in a professional association, does not make for notability, but that does seem to be where several of DSP's sublists are coming from. (A random sampling of the "women psychoanalysts" shows that many would not to pass even our ridiculously low notability standards.)
In other words, smaller lists are more likely to be done than long lists, and are also much more likely to be "adopted" by one or a small group of editors. It's how *successful* wikiprojects have operated for years. They have clear focus, they have specific objectives, and they support systems that give their members a sense of accomplishment rather than leaving them feeling as though they could slave away for months on end without having an effect.
Risker/Anne
Well whatever works.
A "list of lists" is fine with me. Meaning page that points to collections about women related subjects needing improvement.
There are just tons of lists (I have a few on my own user space) that are spread out. It'd be ideal to have one repository space for people to browse.
Alas, I don't have time to create the list, so...whoever decides to do it...I trust them to make the best decision.
-Sarah
On 5/29/13 9:35 PM, Risker wrote:
On 29 May 2013 10:58, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stierch@gmail.com mailto:sarah.stierch@gmail.com> wrote:
Perhaps we can have these lists combined.Actually, I'd really suggest not doing that, or only having links to smaller lists in a central location. With the exception of DSP's list, each of these lists is small enough to feel "achievable", but putting them into one really big list makes the task look and feel overwhelming. Creating 10 articles in a smaller grouping makes a significant dent. Creating 10 articles on DSP's list barely scratches the surface, and I'd question whether such a redlist actually constitutes a reasonable working list even just considering its smaller chunks. A passing mention in a single book, or membership in a professional association, does not make for notability, but that does seem to be where several of DSP's sublists are coming from. (A random sampling of the "women psychoanalysts" shows that many would not to pass even our ridiculously low notability standards.)
In other words, smaller lists are more likely to be done than long lists, and are also much more likely to be "adopted" by one or a small group of editors. It's how *successful* wikiprojects have operated for years. They have clear focus, they have specific objectives, and they support systems that give their members a sense of accomplishment rather than leaving them feeling as though they could slave away for months on end without having an effect.
Risker/Anne
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