I've noticed this for years -- fewer women's biographies vs. men's in an average week at the DYK section of the main page. Maybe I've noticed this because I'm a highly prolific contributor to DYK. But I've wondered how many reader eyeballs land on the main page and notice the same thing?
Some statistics here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions
Annually, there's a preponderance of women's biographies in March (Women's History Month). And during the rest of the year, there's the occasional set (6-7 "hooks") or occasional day (2-3 sets) where the majority of the biographies are regarding women. But it's an uncommon occurrence over the course of a week. The reason seems simple: fewer women's biographies are being nominated by editors, so fewer are promoted, and fewer appear at DYK. It almost goes without saying that fewer women's biographies are created/expanded compared to men's but it's actually important to address this, as IMO, it's the crux of the problem. I am not suggesting and would not support setting limits on the number of men's biographies which appear at DYK. Instead, I'd like to believe that issue/problem recognition is the first step before we brainstorm some objectives, develop workplans (i.e. monthly edit-a-thons anyone?), and measure outcomes.
I'm considering creating a proposal and applying for a grant to work on this "percentage issue". Feedback?
DYK is pretty dysfunctional behind the scenes so I don't think there's any hope of changing DYK processes to address this issue. What can be done is to encourage individual WikiProjects addressing the gender gap to include submitting new and improved articles to DYK as a part of their regular process of article improvement. It's very easy to get a good article onto DYK once it is submitted there.
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 11:24 PM, Rosiestep Wiki rosiestep.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
I've noticed this for years -- fewer women's biographies vs. men's in an average week at the DYK section of the main page. Maybe I've noticed this because I'm a highly prolific contributor to DYK. But I've wondered how many reader eyeballs land on the main page and notice the same thing?
Some statistics here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions
Annually, there's a preponderance of women's biographies in March (Women's History Month). And during the rest of the year, there's the occasional set (6-7 "hooks") or occasional day (2-3 sets) where the majority of the biographies are regarding women. But it's an uncommon occurrence over the course of a week. The reason seems simple: fewer women's biographies are being nominated by editors, so fewer are promoted, and fewer appear at DYK. It almost goes without saying that fewer women's biographies are created/expanded compared to men's but it's actually important to address this, as IMO, it's the crux of the problem. I am not suggesting and would not support setting limits on the number of men's biographies which appear at DYK. Instead, I'd like to believe that issue/problem recognition is the first step before we brainstorm some objectives, develop workplans (i.e. monthly edit-a-thons anyone?), and measure outcomes.
I'm considering creating a proposal and applying for a grant to work on this "percentage issue". Feedback?
-Rosie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rosiestep
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Yeah I stopped submitting DYK a long time ago...drama, rude people, too "complex" of a process for something so simple... On Jul 17, 2014 8:19 AM, "Rob" gamaliel8@gmail.com wrote:
DYK is pretty dysfunctional behind the scenes so I don't think there's any hope of changing DYK processes to address this issue. What can be done is to encourage individual WikiProjects addressing the gender gap to include submitting new and improved articles to DYK as a part of their regular process of article improvement. It's very easy to get a good article onto DYK once it is submitted there.
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 11:24 PM, Rosiestep Wiki <rosiestep.wiki@gmail.com
wrote:
I've noticed this for years -- fewer women's biographies vs. men's in an average week at the DYK section of the main page. Maybe I've noticed this because I'm a highly prolific contributor to DYK. But I've wondered how many reader eyeballs land on the main page and notice the same thing?
Some statistics here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions
Annually, there's a preponderance of women's biographies in March (Women's History Month). And during the rest of the year, there's the occasional set (6-7 "hooks") or occasional day (2-3 sets) where the majority of the biographies are regarding women. But it's an uncommon occurrence over the course of a week. The reason seems simple: fewer women's biographies are being nominated by editors, so fewer are promoted, and fewer appear at DYK. It almost goes without saying that fewer women's biographies are created/expanded compared to men's but it's actually important to address this, as IMO, it's the crux of the problem. I am not suggesting and would not support setting limits on the number of men's biographies which appear at DYK. Instead, I'd like to believe that issue/problem recognition is the first step before we brainstorm some objectives, develop workplans (i.e. monthly edit-a-thons anyone?), and measure outcomes.
I'm considering creating a proposal and applying for a grant to work on this "percentage issue". Feedback?
-Rosie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rosiestep
Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
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Glad you're raising this issue, Rosie, and thinking about a grant-funded project to address it seems like a smart plan! Testing new ways for making engagement with DYK a more regular part of any workshops or other times where women's biographies are being worked on makes sense to me. My 1 and only DYK was for a woman's bio, but at the time I didn't know anything about the process (wouldn't have occurred to me it was something that a noob working on a short article could be part of). If someone else hadn't nominated, it wouldn't have happened.
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 8:24 PM, Rosiestep Wiki rosiestep.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
I've noticed this for years -- fewer women's biographies vs. men's in an average week at the DYK section of the main page. Maybe I've noticed this because I'm a highly prolific contributor to DYK. But I've wondered how many reader eyeballs land on the main page and notice the same thing?
Some statistics here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_additions
Annually, there's a preponderance of women's biographies in March (Women's History Month). And during the rest of the year, there's the occasional set (6-7 "hooks") or occasional day (2-3 sets) where the majority of the biographies are regarding women. But it's an uncommon occurrence over the course of a week. The reason seems simple: fewer women's biographies are being nominated by editors, so fewer are promoted, and fewer appear at DYK. It almost goes without saying that fewer women's biographies are created/expanded compared to men's but it's actually important to address this, as IMO, it's the crux of the problem. I am not suggesting and would not support setting limits on the number of men's biographies which appear at DYK. Instead, I'd like to believe that issue/problem recognition is the first step before we brainstorm some objectives, develop workplans (i.e. monthly edit-a-thons anyone?), and measure outcomes.
I'm considering creating a proposal and applying for a grant to work on this "percentage issue". Feedback?
-Rosie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rosiestep
Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap