on 2/13/11 1:23 AM, Pharos at pharosofalexandria@gmail.com wrote:
Um, this thread seems rather off-topic of our specific purpose here...
Thanks, Pharos
Pharos, are you saying that these posts have nothing to do with gender gap?
Marc
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Marc Riddell michaeldavid86@comcast.net wrote:
I don't, as a rule, top post. But in this case, since it is a response to both of these messages, it seemed appropriate,
There was a time, many, many, many years ago; before there was any defined structured social or political group; there was a female, a male, and their offspring. And the female was, in fact, the center of this grouping. She gave life, kept the "home" and nurtured the offspring on a daily basis. While the male, on the other hand was gone most of the time hunting and gathering. As these individual "family groups" began gathering into tribes, then groups of tribes into villages etc., etc. to today, these groups soon required some sort of "leadership". That was when the man said to the woman, "You stay at home, honey, and tend to the hearth, and I'll tend to the business outside, as I have always done". That was when the most insidious transfer of importance and power in the history of humankind took place. Pity. Men began making and enforcing the rules, starting and fighting the wars, writing the books deciding, and defining, what deities we must worship, and generally making a worldwide nuisance of himself.
Progress?
Marc Riddell
on 2/12/11 5:47 AM, Oliver Keyes at scire.facias@gmail.com wrote:
I'm going to go with "because it's a translation of a translation of a translation of a translation of a [positively recurse 50 times] of a translation of a book written by humans, who are fallible, specifically male humans, in a period where gender equality was occasionally allowing your wife to talk, oh, and there's absolutely no evidence the subject of said book existed in the first place".
Satan crops up twice in the bible. In the mean time, Jezebel, Delilah, Eve and almost every other female character who isn't meek and mild as milk is depicted as being single-handedly responsible for the fall of humanity, the betrayal of Sampson, David's inability to keep his man-parts in his underwear, and everything else that goes wrong with the world. It's no surprise equality has taken so long to even appear on the horizon when people are treating guff like this as an infallible or immutable document.
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Miguelinito miguelinito@gmail.com wrote:
Abraham and Sarah were already very old, and Sarah was past the age of childbearing. So Sarah laughed to herself as she thought, 3After I am worn out and my lord is old, will I now have this pleasure?2
Then the LORD said to Abraham, 3Why did Sarah laugh and say, Will I really have a child, now that I am old?1 Is anything too hard for the LORD? I will return to you at the appointed time next year, and Sarah will have a son.2
Sarah was afraid, so she lied and said, 3I did not laugh.2
But he said, 3Yes, you did laugh.2
There's a couple of questions here:
Why Almighty God chose to be a man?
Why did Almighty God get angry with the laughter of a simple female
mortal? Would he have gotten angry if she, just for *ignorance*, wouldn't have even made herself that question?
For all of you who read the Bible, this could be a nice topic for reflection. :)
Regards
Miguel Ángel
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