This response here is emblematic of the misogyny and ageism pervading Commons: http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File_talk%3AOn_the_edge_-_fre... Coming up with "stuff old women like" would actually be a good idea, but I don't think thecontributor meant it that way. At this deletion request http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Paleis_lang... I pointed out that the creator of the manga image placed it on a photograph of the Escher museum, making it appear his image appeared there. This is deceptive, and against Commons image guidelines. The only response to the deletion request so far is a Keep. The request to remove featured status from the Edge of the World manga image, startedindependently of our discussions by a Russian Wikipedia editor, is heading for a Keep: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Featured_picture_candidates/remova... Here is the original nomination: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Featured_picture_candidates/File:O... The image failed to achieve featured status in German Wikipedia: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kandidaten_f%C3%BCr_exzellente_Bilder... 7 for, 8 against, which based on objective criteria of artistic and educational merit is still kindto the image. I am thinking of writing a letter to the Commons Village Pump to ask the community to takea long hard look at its basic competence. Sue, any ideas? Andreas
--- On Tue, 17/5/11, Sarah Stierch sarah@sarahstierch.com wrote:
From: Sarah Stierch sarah@sarahstierch.com Subject: Re: [Gendergap] [Commons-l] Fwd: Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Tuesday, 17 May, 2011, 16:19
Hi dz,
Great to hear you'd like to be involved. I've been really busy the past few weeks with finishing school, a trip to California, and GLAM related activities (oh and Regional Ambassadorness!) - so I haven't had time to sit down and get my "stuff together" for the HOW-TO. But, I'd love to add you to our HOW-TO gang if you like.
=)
Sarah
On 5/17/2011 8:17 AM, Deanna Zandt wrote:
I'd also be interested in contributing-- the BLP experience of last week was incredibly enlightening, and got me thinking about access... having the right key unlocked a wealth of knowledge and aid. How to make that key more widely available, or second nature/common knowledge? I'm hoping to blog about it soon. In any case, I'd like to come at some of the HOW-TO issues in general from that noob perspective.
cheers dz
On May 16, 2011, at 9:23 PM, Pete Forsyth wrote:
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Sarah Stierch sarah@sarahstierch.com wrote:
On 5/16/2011 11:49 AM, Pete Forsyth wrote:
Anybody interested in tackling this issue? -Pete
I'm working on diving into the HOW-TO this summer for Wiki. I do want to see all of these topics covered - and I'll contribute in anyway I can. Where do we start? ;-)
Hi Sarah,
I'd be really happy to work on this with you! (And anyone else).
My sense is that there's a lot of work to do in identifying the problem -- or rather, evaluating the collection of interrelated issues, and determining where it's best to focus. The things that seem significant to me are:
(1) Picture of the Day on Commons often seems to be the source of unnecessary strife (moreso than, say, PotD on English Wikipedia); (2) It appears that there is not a clearly identified set of editorial values around what DOES constitute a worthwhile PotD on Commons; (3) The technical and social processes for setting a PotD are difficult to understand and poorly documented.
How about if we collaborate a bit on documenting how things currently work? I think that process will point the way toward recommending a solution.
I've set up a page for this project, if you're game! http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Peteforsyth/PotD
-Pete
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