I agree about the double standard, I've seen it applied all too often on Wikipedia. I was just asking what specific articles were being affected.
On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 10:48 PM, Carol Moore dc carolmooredc@verizon.net wrote:
One can always just study the relevant articles. But often it's a double standard in application of policies. So if it's a guy architect with a couple low quality refs, people won't even bother to notice or respond. But if it's a woman architect with 7 or 8 solid ones, it becomes a cause celebre to delete the article. And none of that "give the women a chance to beef it up" nonsense either.
It tends to be quite irrational and knee jerk. I've seen the same thing on articles about writers, professors, politicians, anyone with even a mild POV that goes against the alleged mainstream. Their articles sometimes are ruthlessly attacked and nitpicked. But if you just put a tag for better references (or any references at all!) on articles about individuals with an allegedly more mainstream view who editors merely claim are important in their field, you may get a lot of grief.
That's what systemic bias is all about it.
On 4/11/2015 5:55 PM, Rob wrote:
Can anyone point to where this "troll" behavior happened? There don't seem to be a lot of specifics in this article, and I'm wondering if it's gender trolls (which are, alas, plentiful) or a culture clash between old editors and new ones over unfamiliar policies?
On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Carol Moore dc carolmooredc@verizon.net wrote:
On 4/10/2015 6:33 PM, Siko Bouterse wrote:
This is the grant proposal referenced at the end of that article (currently under review as part of Inspire):
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/More_Female_Architects_on_Wik...
I remember NOT commenting on that one because I figured, who could
have a problem with that?
How soon we forget that getting MORE women articles and editors was and remains controversial.
Banging head vs. wall....
CM
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