Unless Erik has alter egos posting here, I didn't have any problems with * his* comments. I find the idea that men and women are automatically equal participants on a list like this a bit naive, but it's not offensive.
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 4:04 PM, George Herbert george.herbert@gmail.comwrote:
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Laura Hale laura@fanhistory.com wrote:
[...] Erik's comment made me feel decidedly uncomfortable. On a list dedicated
to
helping increase the female participation rates on Wikipedia, Erik
basically
said: WOMENS! THEY IS DISCRIMINATING AGAINST ME! If I went to some
women's
communities and I posted Erik's comment (and comments of other male
posters)
with the context of these comments being said on a list dedicated to increasing female participation rates...
... well, you'd potentially have a mob involved. This effort? It would appear extremely sexist. (The large male involvement, the defensiveness
of
men regaridng their participation contribute to this image.) That these sexist comments are coming from the Deputy Director of WMF? It makes
this
worst because it is sexism coming from inside the institution.
If you and Erik want to belong, that's great. It should be purely in support roles: Women say they are doing this project and need help. WMF officials step in and say we can help this way. If this was the general mode of male participation on the list, of specific support offered in response to specific requests, male involvement would be less
problematic.
I would like to hear more from other women here on your impressions of and responses to Erik's comments.
-- -george william herbert george.herbert@gmail.com
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