Guess we need lots more people on Commons, too, who do not tolerate bigotry towards women....
On 5/26/2011 8:01 PM, Béria Lima wrote:
carol,
en.wiki aproved that, Commons didn't. You can't use a rule from one wiki in another. IF - and that is a BIG if, if commons community approve such kind of rules, you people can remove all comments you can find....
Until there, is censure, and you people will not do it while i'm there to watch commons RC. _____ /Béria Lima/ Wikimedia Portugal http://wikimedia.pt (351) 963 953 042
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2011/5/27 <carolmooredc@verizon.net mailto:carolmooredc@verizon.net>
Racist, homophobic and anti-semitic comments are certainly criticized and people ask for their removal. A pattern of such comments could get one banned. The same should be true for obviously sexist comments. In fact, it's here See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Civil#Identifying_incivility - after a long debate with some editors strongly opposed to adding such sexist comments. * (b) personal attacks <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_personal_attacks>, including racial, ethnic, sexual, gender-related and religious slurs, and derogatory references to groups such as social classes or nationalities; On 5/26/2011 2:53 PM, Sarah wrote:
2011/5/26 Ryan Kaldari<rkaldari@wikimedia.org> <mailto:rkaldari@wikimedia.org>
Those types of comments are a lot worse than unnecessary. They create a sexualized environment that is exclusionary to anyone who isn't a heterosexual male. If this doesn't make sense to you, please read through http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Sexualized_environment These types of comments should be removed on sight. If you see them, please delete them or email me. Thanks.
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:34, Béria Lima<beria.lima@wikimedia.pt> <mailto:beria.lima@wikimedia.pt> wrote:
If you start the censure in Commons, Ryan, your cause will be in Adm noticeboard "on sight" _____ Béria Lima Wikimedia Portugal (351) 963 953 042
Béria, you've rightly asked that people not generalize their responses, where they assume everyone feels as they do. But the same applies to you. You're not offended by these comments. You would see their removal as censorship. Others disagree, and their arguments are valid too. It would be interesting if we could try to find common ground. I agree with you that it's important not to be over-sensitive. But a big problem is that women have been taught for hundreds of years that they're just over-reacting when they say they see discrimination. So the question is: how do we create an environment that's welcoming for as many groups as possible -- including groups who are sensitive to perceived discrimination, and groups who are sensitive to perceived censorship? Sarah _
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