Aye, I was simplifying, sorry - it's a very complex issue. My point is that there is a reason why people might hold such views - it's not good, and it's not something to defend, but if we understand where people are coming from, it helps to combat the incorrect notions. Things are complicated enough as it is.
-I
On 14/01/17 02:28, Pax Ahimsa Gethen wrote:
While I certainly wouldn't consider being trans to be fashionable or fun, the "born in the wrong body" language is not true of all trans people. The definition I prefer to use when I do trans education[1] is that a transgender person does not identify with the sex they were assigned at birth. I don't like to create a litmus test of who gets to use the transgender label beyond that. I simply want everyone to be free and safe to live as their authentic selves.
- Pax
[1] Such as my Transgender Gap presentation at WikiConference North America: https://wikiconference.org/wiki/Submissions:2016/The_Transgender_Gap:_Trans_...
On 1/13/17 10:11 AM, Isarra Yos wrote:
Sadly there's a lot of confusion about this, which seems to be caused by a trend of... I guess you might call it fake allies? Where people consider it to be fashionable to be non-cis, so they idolise being trans, instead. This seems to go as far as those involved believing it really is a decision, where if someone wants to be trans, they can be, and they can be totally comfortable in their body and still be trans. But that's not how it works. It's being born in flat out the wrong body, which is neither fashionable, nor as I understand it, remotely fun in any way.
And frankly this only makes things worse for those who truly do experience dysphoria, to the point where people don't believe them when they try to get help, or even come to believe the entire thing isn't real. Not good.
On 10/01/17 20:21, Pax Ahimsa Gethen wrote:
Being transgender is not an "ideology" or a matter of "sexual confusion", and many people detransition because they cannot fit into the binary gender expectations of our society.
This is a cissexist post that contains language offensive to many trans people (including myself). I am surprised to see it approved on the Gendergap list (which I just joined recently).
- Pax
On 1/10/17 12:12 PM, Carol Moore dc wrote:
And if you think that's complicated, wait til all those transwomen and transmen start detransitioning back to their "natal sex." (Especially lesbians who decide that they've been pressured by sex stereotypes and society to reject their butch nature and want it back.)
A topic that probably will be covered more in the future than here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transsexual#Regrets_and_detransitions
One bio where this sort of thing might be relevant is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexis_Arquette where Alexis' well known sister and brother (as well as boyfriend) stated to RS that Arquette was beginning to reject the ideology and even to "detransition." So if someone decided to take on that, obviously it would be an interesting discussion of RS, rumor, accuracy of sources, etc.
Of course, detransitioning will be more in the younger generation of notable personalities. Older generations often had decades to think about it before they took concrete transitioning steps. (Though lots of RS keep waiting for Caitlyn Jenner to do it so they can make money covering that side of the story.)
Today a lot of sexually confused young people have been led into it by advocacy groups, school counselors, doctors - and even parents who would prefer their child be of the opposite sex (sometimes because they are terrified otherwise the child will be gay!)
Then as they go into their late teens and early 20s they are becoming more independent and able to judge how much others influenced them. Some already are considering lawsuits against schools and advocacy groups they feel pushed them into a decision they now regret.
So this is a whole new area with lots of personal accounts and mainstream RS sources, though I'm sure it may be a while before anyone safely could expand that section of the article, create a new article, or write much about detransitioning celebrities.