Keep in mind the survey is people stating their gender in the survey itself, not their userspace/account. When I take the survey I can choose a gender or no response. (and maybe something else..I dont remember and I'm on my phone..) I am sure plenty of people who do not choose gender on their profile choose it anonymously on the profile.
I trust the survey. Data doesn't equal patriarchy when it is the community who is choosing to identify their gender in said survey. And having numbers is honestly more powerful than saying "oh most editors are men."
If you'd like to talk to the organizers of the survey, I'm sure they'd be happy to discuss it.
Sarah
Sent via iPhone - I apologize in advance for my shortness or errors! :)
On Jun 17, 2012, at 11:22 PM, koltzenburg@w4w.net wrote:
Thank you Risker/Anne for this statement which I think is true:
(most editors do not gender-identify ...
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/gendergap/2012-June/002876.html
what follows from this is, in my opinion, that any specific-looking numbers the Wikimedia Foundation (e.g., Wikipedia editor survey) chooses to have published about how many women act as editors should not be trusted and hence not be perpetuated
and best not in our list description, either... "The most recent Wikipedia editor survey indicates that the percentage of female contributors in Wikimedia projects is approximately nine percent."
could this starting sentence be changed, maybe, to reflect the fact stated by Anne/Risker and not feed into such a seemingly negatively perceived climate in the first place?
ah, yes, this is me again, trying to raise some awareness also about the promotional paradoxes in results created by patriarchally-inspired statistics exercises that purport to come up with facts, apologies if this makes you groan, maybe again, I will stick to my point though until I hear better arguments - which, certainly, I am happy to take on this point
:-) thanks & cheers, Claudia koltzenburg@w4w.net
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