On 2/24/2016 12:02 AM, Rob wrote: Until now, I did not realize how many people saw The
Signpost not as an edgy outsider but as a Wikimedia institution and our newspaper of record, and feel that it has a responsibility to act more in the manner of The New York Times than The Village Voice. I don't want The Signpost to become stodgy or staid, but I wonder if I shouldn't take into account the views of those editors more often. It is heartening to see how important The Signpost is to so many editors, and I'd like to continue to be intellectually provocative while not needlessly offending those editors.
Some of us who are known to lose it under pressure (which is another reason why people harass us), DO appreciate seeing the official organs encourage us to keep working in a civil manner. So that we can deal with not only harassment against us, but our own bad reactions to it. Feeding the trolls as the intemperate/machismo language did does NOT encourage a civil and productive atmosphere.
More importantly, it discourages the greater number of editors who can understand and agree with Wikimedia 5 pillars and produce quality contributions, the kind of talented editors that Wikimedia wants to attract.
(By the way, I had a senior moment and forgot what the "5 pillars" are called and trying to find them from the main page, content page, etc. came up with zip. Looking here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Wikipedia:Five_pillars
I only found one project page newbies might use linking to them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Menu
Are the trolls hiding them now? Maybe they have to be dropped back into a few general WP: project pages?
CM
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