The WMF may or may not help editors who are receiving death threats via their email systems - I'd venture to guess that in the majority of cases they're handled by admins or CUs or arbitrators by the expedient of blocking the accounts with email turned off. If you're saying you really don't want police involved, then I don't know what you'd expect the WMF to do over and above blocking the same accounts and the same IPs that can (and often are) blocked by volunteers.
I do not suggest that harassment via email (up to and including serious death threats) is a minor matter, but that the "emergency@wikimedia.org" is for threats of harm to self or others that are published onwiki where there is concern that police or other authorities should be informed because there is an imminent risk of harm. Keep in mind that that email address is staffed by a grand total of six people (the Community Advocacy team) to cover the entire world.
Risker/Anne
On 26 September 2015 at 13:59, Carol Moore dc carolmooredc@verizon.net wrote:
I was referring to threats to kill someone that clearly come from a known Wikipedia handle or editor, or, as in my case, a person who is known because it's the same kind of message they have been known to send to various others many times before.
In my case threats were sent through Wikimedia Foundation email and evidently that's what this person - and perhaps others - enjoys doing. At the very least advice to contact the Foundation also should cover such abuses. (Obviously if it's an anonymous person through another email system, it's a different issue. Though I believe the Foundation was happy to help Sitush when he was getting those kind of messages.)
As an activist I'm reluctant to deal with authorities unless it is VERY real and imminent. Those who want to report it would assume their only recourse is to go straight to the police who then will be the ones going to the Foundation to sort it out.
That is the specific issue I was addressing and the person who does that evidently is back to doing it, so perhaps others are doing it too and women are just quitting Wikipedia without telling anyone why.
I wrote:
On 9/26/2015 12:27 PM, Risker wrote:
Neotarf is correct, it is the guideline to address suicide threats and similar threats of serious harm to self or others (e.g., "I'm going to go shoot up my school") - in other words, that guideline is intended to capture situations where there is a reason to contact police or similar authorities because of an imminent threat to safety. The person adding the link probably did not really read through the point of the page. Speaking personally, I'd be pretty offended if I complained that someone was harassing me and was linked to a page about reporting suicide threats. Note that one of the shortcuts is [[WP:SUICIDE]].
I have removed that as a "Main article" because it's not really about harassment.
Risker/Anne
On 26 September 2015 at 11:52, Neotarf <neotarf@gmail.com mailto:neotarf@gmail.com> wrote:
@Carol Moore, I believe that link is about suicide threats. Did you mean to link to something else? On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Carol Moore dc <carolmooredc@verizon.net <mailto:carolmooredc@verizon.net>> wrote: Because of an offline discussion about the 1000 odd death threats I got directly through the Wikimedia Foundation email system and my failure to remember personally contacting them (as opposed to admins) about it, I decided to see if the Harassment article mentioned that option. I did a little research and found it was not til July 22, 2015 that the harassment article section on "threats" provided a link to the WP:Essay that specifically advises this!https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Harassment&diff=672...
Now why can't the threats section include that info? Certain some well-connected editors have learned how to work that angle with the foundation for even minor issues... There's a huge section on what to do about threats of legal action, but zilch on death threats. Pretty absurd... Safe space, NOT!!* Thanks... CM *Of course, there's a difference between legitimate safe space from actual direct insults or threats of harm and the absurd degree of hypersensitivity now a days where there are trigger warnings on any opinion that someone might disagree with and protests against opinions that just aren't politically correct enough... but don't get me started... A lot of articles about it lately have exposed the absurdities and hypocrisy of some individuals and groups. And I can understand the fear of some male wikipedians they will be exposed to the most extreme varieties. It also gives the most oppressive guys an excuse to label minor and legitimate demands for safe space as "extremist." ("You extremist, you want to mention contacting the Foundation on the Harassment page!!!") Glad I'm not in college! Or any "progressive" political groups any more. Especially now that I am finally free of having to be a "good girl" on Wikipedia and can engage in anti-establishment mockery and sarcasm in my writings/artistic endeavors without worrying about wikistalkers slamming me all over Wikipedia ;-) _______________________________________________ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
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