On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
Whatever else "cis" is, it's not a scientific term. It's a buzzword that sounds scientific because it derives from the Latin, but in fact it's a coined term that is not used in science.
What makes a term scientific other than that scientists use it?
"Sociologists Kristen Schilt and Laurel Westbrook define *cisgender* as a label for "individuals who have a match between the gender they were assigned at birth, their bodies, and their personal identity" as a complement to *transgender https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender*.[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisgender#cite_note-2"
*"Sociology* is the academic study of social behaviour https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_behaviour, its origins, development, organisation, and institutions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institution. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociology#cite_note-1 It is a social science https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_science that uses various methods of empirical investigation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empirical_method[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociology#cite_note-Classical_Statements8-2 and critical analysis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_analysis[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociology#cite_note-Classical_Statements4-3 to develop a body of knowledge about social order, social disorder and social change."
Risker/Anne
On 16 January 2015 at 16:33, Sarah Stierch sarah.stierch@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not cis..and it was a term I only learned about a few years ago... but, here's the Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisgender
It means that someone identifies as the gender they were born with. So, if you're born with female parts and you identify as a woman and it's totally inline with who you are as said woman... you're cis.
I think Lightbreather used it in the correct way. I'm not sure why it's an insult. It's more like a scientific term, it seems, then a cultural movement.
But, I've learned by now I'm rather an epic fail at trying to use all of these phrases properly. I blame being from Indiana. ;-)
Sarah
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Katherine Casey < fluffernutter.wiki@gmail.com> wrote:
*"Also note many women consider "cis" to be an insult that eliminates womens experience as women, who've been identified as and identify as women from birth, and are happy and even proud to be women."* ...wha?
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Carol Moore dc < carolmooredc@verizon.net> wrote:
On 1/16/2015 2:20 PM, LB wrote:
Based on a discussion at the WikiProject Women IdeaLab talk page https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:IdeaLab/WikiProject_Women#best_practice.3F, I have started a test Kaffeeklatsch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lightbreather/Kaffeeklatsch area for women (cis, lesbian, transgender) only. Participation of interested women would be welcome.
Lightbreather
Since "cis" means non-trans male or female, where's the woman only?
Also note many women consider "cis" to be an insult that eliminates womens experience as women, who've been identified as and identify as women from birth, and are happy and even proud to be women.
CM
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