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Report “Charting Diversity - Working together towards diversity in Wikipedia” published and @Wikimania
by Valentin Münscher 06 Aug '14

06 Aug '14

Hello everyone, last year Wikimedia Deutschland cooperated with Beuth University of Applied Science concerning diversity in Wikipedia. Now we published the key conclusions and recommendation and translate the report into English, so that you and other interested people can also take a closer look on our work concerning diversity and maybe getting input for your own work. The English title is “Charting Diversity - Working together towards diversity in Wikipedia” and starts off with a review of the current situation in (the German) Wikipedia and then goes on to offer different concepts and possibilities how to improve diversity in Wikipedia. You find the document on Commons via this link <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Charting_Diversity.pdf> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Charting_Diversity.pdf Sebastian Horndasch <https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Sebastian_Horndasch_%28WMDE%29> and me, Valentin, <https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Valentin_Muenscher_%28WMDE%29> from the education & knowledge departement of Wikimedia Deutschland will also bring paper copies to the Wikimania in London and we are looking forward to answer your questions and discuss your comments with you. Check our Wikimania user sides for our Wikimania timetables or write us an email, if you wanna get in touch with us: Sebastian: sebastian.horndasch(a)wikimedia.de Valentin: valentin.muenscher(a)wikimedia.de All the best, Valentin -- Valentin Münscher Projektmanager Bereich Bildung & Wissen ------------------------------ Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 www.wikimedia.de Stellen Sie sich eine Welt vor, in der jeder Mensch freien Zugang zu der Gesamtheit des Wissens der Menschheit hat. Helfen Sie uns dabei! http://spenden.wikimedia.de/ ****Unterstützen Sie Freies Wissen mit einer SMS. Senden Sie einfach WIKI an 81190. Mit 5 Euro sichern Sie so die Verfügbarkeit und Weiterentwicklung der Wikipedia.****

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List of cases of violence against women
by Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada 06 Aug '14

06 Aug '14

Hello; >From some time ago, I have been thinking on creating lists of cases of violence against women, mainly the killings, that are reported in the news. Recently in Spain, the 34th victim (in 2014) of violence against women was killed. The Ministry of Health publishes statistics, keeps a count by year, and news are widely reported in media. What is your opinion on creating this lists by country/year? Regards

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Visiting the Feminist library in London
by Sanja Pavlović 06 Aug '14

06 Aug '14

Hi, everyone! For all of you who are in London for Wikimania - I would very like to meet you all :) I look forward the lunch we will have on Saturday! Some girls and me were thinking about visiting the Feminist library while we are here: http://feministlibrary.co.uk/ Unfortunately, they are not open during August, but fortunately, they are able to book some visit and to show us the place if we ask them by email :) So, I was wondering, if some of you are interested in going there, maybe we can all go together. Please, get in touch with me if you are interested, and I will try to contact the Library and choose the day. In the same occasion, maybe we can also visit the Women's Library at LSE: http://www.lse.ac.uk/library/collections/featuredCollections/womensLibraryL… Happy to hear from you, Sanja Wikimedia Serbia

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Sexism on Wikipedia
by Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight 04 Aug '14

04 Aug '14

Yesterday, on Jimbo's talkpage, section titled "Sexism on Wikipedia", an editor wrote: "... Apparently it's very easy to construct this narrative of 'we have a problem, yes we do!' with disregard to rational analysis. It all has a very shallow American activist feel to it." This infuriated me on multiple levels and I left a response on Jimbo's page: "This issue may be near and dear to many -- including those who keep mute for fear of retribution -- so unless someone can substantiate that the issue is 'shallow', I'd say to avoid referring to it in that way. I'm also unclear why this has an 'American activist' feel to it, but I haven't tried to figure out who lives where. Yes, Lightbreather's examples appear to be written by Americans, but in my mind, the issue isn't American-centric at all." Then I read the post on this list about the anxiety expressed by Latina women and it underscored to me that this isn't an "American" issue. Where you sit when you edit doesn't matter as we're part of a virtual community. Global issue, right?? -Rosie User:Rosiestep On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 5:00 AM, <gendergap-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > Send Gendergap mailing list submissions to > gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > gendergap-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > gendergap-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Gendergap digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Sexualized environment on Commons (Kathleen McCook) > 2. Re: Sexualized environment on Commons (LtPowers) > 3. Re: Sexualized environment on Commons (Jeremy Baron) > 4. Discussion on Jimbo Wales talk page (Carol Moore dc) > 5. Tweet on Paula England (Kathleen McCook) > 6. Re: Tweet on Paula England (Sarah Stierch) > 7. Re: Tweet on Paula England (Kathleen McCook) > 8. Sessions at Wikimania related to gender gap (Netha Hussain) > 9. Re: Sexualized environment on Commons (Pine W) > 10. Re: Sexualized environment on Commons (Michael J. Lowrey) > 11. Re: Sexualized environment on Commons (Pine W) > 12. Re: Sexualized environment on Commons (Michael J. Lowrey) > 13. Re: Sexualized environment on Commons (Sarah Stierch) > 14. Re: Sexualized environment on Commons (Sarah Stierch) > 15. Re: Sexualized environment on Commons (Pine W) > 16. Re: Sexualized environment on Commons (Michael J. Lowrey) > 17. Re: Sexualized environment on Commons (Janine Starykowicz) > 18. Re: Sexualized environment on Commons (Pine W) > 19. Re: Sexualized environment on Commons (Janine Starykowicz) > 20. Re: Sexualized environment on Commons (Pine W) > 21. Re: Sexualized environment on Commons (A. Mani) > 22. Re: Tweet on Paula England (Tom Morris) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 09:22:28 -0400 > From: Kathleen McCook <klmccook(a)gmail.com> > To: "Addressing gender equity and exploring ways to increase the > participation of women within Wikimedia projects." > <gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Sexualized environment on Commons > Message-ID: > < > CA+ETL-YX_CJQ-bvv-5kiaAcm85zn-KhHbVq3Hu2pKBV_rAJ3Kw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Getting women to stick around... > > I had a class of 25. About 20 women and 5 men. The women, especially Latina > women, expressed much anxiety over various treatments--all over the map. > Esp. comments and tone of talk pages.Lack of politeness and common > courtesies. > Today, a year later, only 2 (of 20) women are editing, but the men have > become engaged contributors. > > Should we tell people at the outset that this is sort of an Outward Bound > experience? Survival only of the thick skinned? I do believe this is too > bad. As a teacher if I treated students the way Wikipedians treat new > contributors, I would be sent for continuing education. Most people want to > edit to contribute, not to be wrangled to the mat. > Too many women who begin to edit are made to feel belittled, stupid and > small. This is crazy. So much talent and good will is nattered away. > > > --Kathleen. > > Kathleen de la Peña McCook > Distinguished University Professor of Librarianship > USF/SI: http://si.usf.edu/faculty/kmccook/ > Academia.edu: https://usf.academia.edu/KathleendelaPe%C3%B1aMcCook > Library Thing:: > http://www.librarything.com/catalog/klmccook/allcollections > > > On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 2:04 AM, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Keilana, > > > > J-mo discussed similar thoughs in the presentation videos that I just > sent > > to some of the other email lists. Perhaps you could brainstorm ideas > with > > him and other interested people at Wikimania? > > > > Pine > > On Aug 1, 2014 10:37 PM, "Keilana" <keilanawiki(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> To briefly go back to what Sarah and Marie have said, I do find that in > >> person hand-holding and social support are the most effective factors in > >> getting women to stick around. I don't know how to translate that from > the > >> real-world environment I teach newbies in to the virtual environment of > new > >> users' talk pages. I'd love to brainstorm something in that vein, > though. :) > >> > >> -Emily > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 11:40 PM, A. Mani <a.mani.cms(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 7:10 PM, Carol Moore dc > >>> <carolmooredc(a)verizon.net> wrote: > >>> > Then I looked at this political poster image > >>> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Courageous_Cunts.jpg > >>> > which leads to this site http://courageouscunts.com/ > >>> > >>> I think nobody has bothered to write much on the movement. > >>> > >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courageous_Cunts > >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labia_pride_movement > >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Labia_Project has no content > >>> > >>> Contrast that with the content on this site: > >>> http://largelabiaproject.org > >>> > >>> > >>> Best > >>> > >>> A. Mani > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> A. Mani > >>> [Last_Name. First_Name Format] > >>> CU, ASL, AMS, ISRS, CLC, CMS > >>> HomePage: http://www.logicamani.in > >>> Blog: http://logicamani.blogspot.in/ > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Gendergap mailing list > >>> Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org > >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Gendergap mailing list > >> Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Gendergap mailing list > > Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > > > > >

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Tweet on Paula England
by Kathleen McCook 03 Aug '14

03 Aug '14

I saw this tweet Philip Cohen. from https://twitter.com/familyunequal/status/495662217149546496 Attention, gender sociologists: Paula England has no Wikipedia page. Someone should make one before she becomes president of @ASAnews <https://twitter.com/ASAnews>. ======== What do we do when someone thinks someone should have a page? Is there a place he can request?

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Government-Funded Study: Why Is Wikipedia Sexist?
by Carol Moore dc 01 Aug '14

01 Aug '14

http://freebeacon.com/issues/government-funded-study-why-is-wikipedia-sexis… Government-Funded Study: Why Is Wikipedia Sexist? $202,000 to address 'gender bias' in world's biggest online encyclopedia BY: Elizabeth Harrington Coincidentally(?) even as we're trying to get the Task Force more together, there have been raging discussions on WP:ANI and Jimmy Wales talk page about this issue. Someone posted this article link on the talk page.

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Re Government-Funded Study: Why Is Wikipedia Sexist?
by Kathleen McCook 01 Aug '14

01 Aug '14

It is my perspective that working through the processes on Wikipedia are too democratic for most academics. It is easier to get a grant and become the defacto expert than to be part of the conversation. What I went through last week trying to get support for the South African novel, October, by Zoe Wicomb is a lot more than most professors could bear. But it seems to me that the group process, while more inclusive, can be obscured when experts study us. I have found this to happen to many grass roots efforts when studied. (labor union actions, migrant worker initiartves, etc.) --Kathleen Kathleen de la Peña McCook Distinguished University Professor of Librarianship USF/SI: http://si.usf.edu/faculty/kmccook/ Academia.edu: https://usf.academia.edu/KathleendelaPe%C3%B1aMcCook Library Thing:: http://www.librarything.com/catalog/klmccook/allcollections ======== Zandt argues that Wikipedia is biased because the majority of its editors are “young, white, child-free men.” “There’s nothing inherently wrong with a young, white, child-free man’s perspective, of course—it’s just that there are tons of other perspectives in the world that should influence how a story gets told,” Zandt wrote <http://www.forbes.com/sites/deannazandt/2013/04/26/yes-wikipedia-is-sexist-…> in an editorial for *Forbes* last year, entitled, “Yes, Wikipedia Is Sexist—That’s Why It Needs You.” On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stierch(a)gmail.com> wrote: > This is amazing. > > That's a lot of money. > > Sarah > On Aug 1, 2014 6:04 AM, "Carol Moore dc" <carolmooredc(a)verizon.net> wrote: > >> >> http://freebeacon.com/issues/government-funded-study-why-is-wikipedia-sexis… >> Government-Funded Study: Why Is Wikipedia Sexist? >> $202,000 to address ‘gender bias’ in world’s biggest online encyclopedia >> BY: Elizabeth Harrington >> >> Coincidentally(?) even as we're trying to get the Task Force more >> together, there have been raging discussions on WP:ANI and Jimmy Wales talk >> page about this issue. Someone posted this article link on the talk page. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > >

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Fwd: [Wikimediauk-l] She must be Wiki editathon - nice write up
by Chris Keating 01 Aug '14

01 Aug '14

Here's a write-up of a recent Wikimedia UK-supported event which you might find interesting. I was one of the trainers for the event and I found it was particularly interesting working with a group of feminists who'd decided the coverage of a particular area on Wikipedia wasn't good enough and were on a bit of a mission to change it.... Chris ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Stevie Benton <stevie.benton(a)wikimedia.org.uk> Date: Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 9:19 AM Subject: [Wikimediauk-l] She must be Wiki editathon - nice write up To: UK Wikimedia mailing list <wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Hello everyone, I've just come across a good blog post about last week's "She must be Wiki <https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/SHE_MUST_BE_WIKI:_Feminist_Film_Wiki-a-thon>" editathon about feminist film. Sounds like everyone enjoyed the event, but that some of the content they created fell a little foul of notability guidelines. The blog post is here - http://www.thefword.org.uk/blog/2014/08/ICA_feminist_Wiki-a-thon Thank you to the trainers who helped out on the day (the event page says EdwardX and LoopZilla) - it sounds like they are enthused enough to have another event, so well done everyone involved. Stevie PS if any editors feel like helping them with their notability issues, then I am sure it would be very welcome! -- Stevie Benton Head of External Relations Wikimedia UK+44 (0) 20 7065 0993 / +44 (0) 7803 505 173 @StevieBenton Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

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