Hey folks,
http://www.cbc.ca/spark/2011/09/sue-gardner-on-wikipedias-gender-gap/
This is me being interviewed by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation
about our gender gap. It's raw (uncut) tape so it's long -- I am
guessing about 20 minutes. But you will probably find it interesting,
due to the topic and also the fact that --although I don't name
anybody-- I talk at some length about this list :-)
(You might disagree with how I characterize what's happening here --
i.e., I think I say at one point that the list has been sometimes
'hilarious,' and I realize I may be alone in thinking that. It's fine
if you disagree, but I hope nobody finds what I said offensive -- it's
meant affectionately, and with respect.)
Thanks,
Sue
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Hi all,
A fellow woman who Wikis sent me a link to Girl Genius Webcomic's facebook
page. Carol, a staff member there, posted that artist Kaja Foglio's article
isn't that great and needs work, asking for help!
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Girl-Genius-Webcomic/28371352860?sk=wall (I
don't know if you need an account to view it) If you scroll down a bit
you'll see her plea:
"Hi! This is Carol at the Studio. I just noticed that Kaja's Wikipedia page
is a little weak. It lists her with art credits where she should have author
credits, misses her more recent author credits, and doesn't have a proper
mention of her Magic art. Also, she's only listed with one Hugo. Is anyone
out there a Wikipedian? We'd deeply appreciate some thoughtful updates!"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaja_Foglio
I encourage you to edit away =)
Sarah
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GLAMWIKI Partnership Ambassador for Wikimedia <http://www.glamwiki.org>
Wikipedian-in-Residence, Archives of American
Art<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SarahStierch>
and
Sarah Stierch Consulting
*Historical, cultural & artistic research & advising.*
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http://www.sarahstierch.com/
I was talking with User:Dispenser a bit on IRC this morning, he gave me
permission to post his ideas to this list (since he's better at explaining
these things..than I!)
dispenser: SarahStierch: I've read from Chatroulette that genital detection
only has a low accuracy rate, about 20% false negatives. Face detection on
the other hand is very accurate. Now somewhere on commons is guideline
instituted by German privacy zealots to comply with Germany's privacy laws
regarding identification of people.
[2:31pm] SarahStierch: I see
[2:31pm] SarahStierch: I figured the accuracy would be low.
[2:36pm] dispenser: You could lobby for a bot to start tagging faces in
images for a number of reason:
[2:36pm] dispenser: 1) Compliance with laws that reuses might face, e.g. in
Germany
[2:36pm] dispenser: 2) Eliminating or replacing "vacation" photographs of
locations that have family members in them
[2:37pm] dispenser: 3) Likewise with articles of clothing, e.g. a halter top
doesn't need to show a face
[2:43pm] dispenser: Something like
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Personality_rights
Something for us to think about while we examine policies and decide on our
next steps to bringing this to the larger community. (And the pros/cons of
course).
-Sarah
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GLAMWIKI Partnership Ambassador for Wikimedia <http://www.glamwiki.org>
Wikipedian-in-Residence, Archives of American
Art<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SarahStierch>
and
Sarah Stierch Consulting
*Historical, cultural & artistic research & advising.*
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http://www.sarahstierch.com/
http://openvideoconference.org/2011/09/cindy-gallop-make-love-not-porn/
Shared with me by JeremyB who saw her speak over the weekend.
And if you don't want to watch or read, check out her website - Make Love
Not Porn - which has users choose porn world or real world in response to
sexual scenarios. It's quite fun...and yeah, some people do think in the
ways of "porn world...." which gives you that lightbulb moment..especially
if you've had interactions with those types.
I do believe that Commons has great representation of people from around the
world who have been desensitized to sexuality and/or violence.....
Sarah
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GLAMWIKI Partnership Ambassador for the Wikimedia
Foundation<http://www.glamwiki.org>
Wikipedian-in-Residence, Archives of American
Art<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SarahStierch>
and
Sarah Stierch Consulting
*Historical, cultural & artistic research & advising.*
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http://www.sarahstierch.com/
I used to use they, but with all these "she's" lately, and some editors
calling her "he", I thought... why not.
Someone mentioned privately
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-neutral_pronoun#Modern_solutions
So options is best way to go, and let nature take its course as what
seems most appropriate or the mood I'm in...
Images used on Wikipedia should reflect information published in reliable
sources about the subject, not the internal life of the editor, nor the
consensus of how editors view the subject.
See Wikipedia:Original_research#Original_images
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Original_research#…
This is the appropriate policy to cite with respect to images which
reflect "objectification" of the subject. Such images come from the
internal psychic images people have rather than corresponding to reality,
see [[object relations theory]].
Fred
Hello all,
I've been on the gender gap mailing list for a number of months now but have
yet to introduce myself. While I tend to default to Wikipedia often when I
want quick information on something, I never considered the possibility of
editing until reading about the gender gap issue. It was at this point I
came across the African American Woman Suffrage Movement article and tried
to clean it up a bit. While rewarding, I didn't have the sources to try and
expand on it but I hope to do so in the future.
While to some extent I subscribe to the idea that there are many women out
there who fall into the category of "not having the free time", I fall into
a much different category that was discussed a few months back (and which I
only read yesterday - I tend to let the digests pile up and read them all at
once!!): Women that are technically savvy and do have some free time. At
times I am an avid blogger and the Wikipedia technology is easy and fun for
me to learn as I go. I often have a number of things I need to or want to do
with my time and prioritize accordingly. Wikipedia is low in that list of
priorities.
I have a hard time articulating why that is. To some degree it is both
function and attitude. After editing the Suffrage Movement article, I found
myself wanting to continue contributing. Yet the time I allotted to
Wikipedia really only allowed me to do things such as suggesting new
articles or categorizing their class/importance for something like the
Women's History project. As Sydney (I believe) mentioned a few emails back
about cleaning up the commons, it felt like such an endless, tedious task
and eventually I lost interest altogether.
As for attitude, I don't mean to insult when I say this, merely to explain.
When I was in graduate school I was frustrated with the idea that I should
be editing Wikipedia - here is a site that seems "a joke" in academic
circles (the ever so common "Wikipedia is NOT a source!!" from professors,
exasperated that we should know better), I am steeped in information that
actually "matters" every day, why in the heck am I going to bother with
Wikipedia?! Given the sheer amount of use Wikipedia gets not only in
general, but from me as well illustrates how much it truly matters and why
it's all the more important to make sure information is portrayed in an
accurate manner. In addition, the greater interest academics are actually
taking in Wikipedia proves me wrong as well.
LASTLY, in terms of having a more diverse representation of female bodies -
one might look up pictures of the World Naked Bike Ride. It was fascinating
to me to see all different shapes and sizes, as bodies in the US media are
often airbrushed paragons of "perfection." I don't know anything about
rights to photos and such though I have a (male) friend who participates
every year and is quite open with the pictures he appears in. If permission
is necessary, perhaps the women who have participated would be quite happy
to oblige.
I am going to Urubamba, Peru at the end of the month for 3 months and I see
that the article could use some work. I look forward to improving it!! I
appreciate the care that those of you on this list put into trying to remedy
the gender gap, as well as examining whether topics on Wikipedia are being
skewed to reflect a patriarchal bias.
Erin (User Gwytherinn)
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Erin O'Rourke
http://erin-orourke.com