Gendergap February 2011

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Re: [Gendergap] Gendergap Digest, Vol 1, Issue 110
by Susan Spencer 26 Feb '11

26 Feb '11

This project sounds great! However, the phrase 'Celebrate Women' doesn't have any meaning, and could be anything - it could be a Solstice-based party in somebody's cornfield or an online family-planning course. Consider how effective a campaign called 'Celebrate Men' would be. We're trying to appeal to people with expertise and experience, who need something meaningful to get their attention. - Susan Spencer Conklin > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 19:34:22 -0700 (MST) > From: "Fred Bauder" <fredbaud(a)fairpoint.net> > Subject: [Gendergap] Celebrate Women > To: gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Message-ID: > <38179.66.243.192.69.1298342062.squirrel(a)webmail.fairpoint.net> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > > Let's do a Wikipedia wide project, call it "Celebrate Women". There might > be banners featuring either articles about women, or women editors. > Featured articles during this period, of perhaps a year, would be > biographies of women or even women played significant roles in. > > Lists of articles which are needed or which need improvement could be > drawn up and, of course, projects started. > > By the way, work on the article "role model" is progressing and will > eventually include a section on positive, as opposed to celebrity, role > models, both male and female. I think there are quite a few resources, > once you start looking for them in terms of lists of admired women, or > men. > > Fred > > > > >

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Poynter Examines Women Comments (Thanks to Wikipedia)
by Sandra ordonez 26 Feb '11

26 Feb '11

This is why i love Wikipedia. The article below I KNOW is a direct result of the recent publicity on our gender gap. Even more proof of why solving this at Wikipedia will have a ripple affect in the real world. Allow me to be cheesy, but this is why i love the project, because i really do feel it makes the world a better place. Interesting points of view in the article. http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/top-stories/118696/why-women-dont-contri…

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NY Meeting Summary
by Sandra ordonez 25 Feb '11

25 Feb '11

Hi All, A bunch of us got together tonight in NY. Unfortunately, we were not able to connect to the other participants who were going to join us via Skype. (it was quite funny, we ended trying to work from a stairwell in a VERY old NY building to try to access the ladies, lol, but had no luck overcoming our technical difficulties. ) We had good brainstorming and came up with solid/practical ideas. We decided it best to concentrate our initial efforts to one initiative per age group. I've written up the notes in meta. You are welcome to see them, just be aware, that we just finished the meeting, and the other team members have not had time to edit the page. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/NY_Wiki_Chics If you have any ideas, suggestions, please let us know - offlist of course. However, can definitely say that we had REALLY good energy and i think the beginning of something very cool :)

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the terms "chicks" and "fellows"; systemic bias noticeboard
by James Salsman 25 Feb '11

25 Feb '11

Is it appropriate for the Foundation to refer to women as "chicks" and use the title "fellow" for staff positions? I'm not adamantly opposed to either, but I am convinced we can do much better. On the issue of noticeboards, does anyone know of any actual reasons that any noticeboard has not tended to help solve the problem it was intended to address? All of them seem to have been relatively successful to me, and certainly have been lesser drama magnets than the general WP:ANI noticeboard which they tend to relieve by moving quality responsibilities from the administrators to the wider community. It seems to me that the English Wikipedia would be far better with a systematic bias noticeboard to cover both gender and geographic concerns.

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Re: [Gendergap] RecentChangesCamp 2011 Boston
by Pete Forsyth 25 Feb '11

25 Feb '11

On Feb 24, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Laura Hale wrote: > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Joseph Reagle <joseph.2008(a)reagle.org> wrote: > On Wednesday, February 23, 2011, Laura Hale wrote: > > RecentChangesCamp 2011 Boston is coming up in March. > > I'm looking forward to the Boston RCC and would like to hear discussion about the gender gap. There is a proposed session about gender and motivation [1]. (Though I'm not keen on the perspective of this as being about motivation.) > > (I'd also be happy to present preliminary thoughts on my current work [2], but I would prefer to mostly listen, and I know that presentations aren't very unconference-ish.) > > RecentChangesCamp has had people do presentations before. wikiHow has done a few on how they've done community development in 2009 in Portland and 2008 in Palo Alto. I believe there was a formal presentation about copyright at Palo Alto in 2008. We had a Power Point presentation about Lonely Planet wiki stuff at 2011 in Canberra that was basically a repeat of something presented at wikiSym. Totally different audience so it was new for us. :) If you have a formal presentation, bring it along. I don't know if they will have screen projectors but it can always be shown on your laptop if you want to show it to people. Yes, I have seen many "presentation style" sessions at different RCCs, and did one myself in Montreal last year. I'd advise leaving room for discussion, but I suspect people would be very interested in hearing about your research, Joseph. I know I would -- wish I could be in Boston! -Pete Pete Forsyth peteforsyth(a)gmail.com 503-383-9454 mobile

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RecentChangesCamp 2011 Boston
by Laura Hale 25 Feb '11

25 Feb '11

Rambling a bit and hello. RecentChangesCamp 2011 Boston is coming up in March. Details can be found at http://recentchangescamp.org/wiki/Boston . RecentChangesCamp is a wiki related conference that utilizes open space. That means the attendees basically set the agenda when they arrive. In the past, women have been heavily involved with organizing the event. At the most recent RecentChangesCamp in Canberra, we had probably 25% of our participants as women. That's a bit above the norm for Wikimedia related projects, so we were very happy. Wikimedia Foundation has been tremendously supportive of this conference in the past, by either providing funding or sending staff. This is a great chance for people to get together and talk in small groups about issues related to women's participation on wikis, how to increase participation, talk about research being done on wikis as it pertains to women's needs, to start planning for future events related to women and wikis, and to network. As some one involved with RecentChangesCamp in the past, I've noticed a fair amount of leadership amongst women in organizing the conference. This type of involvement in the background, as an organizer, probably isn't acknowledged or given as much as importance as editing but it can play a big role in shaping things. Discussing that at RecentChangesCamp, seeing how that plays out, would also be very interesting. -- twitter: purplepopple blog: ozziesport.com

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Fwd: Reminder: IRC office hours with Sue Gardner today
by Steven Walling 25 Feb '11

25 Feb '11

Cross-posting. If anyone new to the gender gap list is unfamiliar with IRC, let me know and I will try to help you out. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Steven Walling <swalling(a)wikimedia.org> Date: Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 9:54 AM Subject: Reminder: IRC office hours with Sue Gardner today To: foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Hi all, Sorry for the late reminder, but just wanted to let everyone know that the IRC office hours with Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Sue Gardner will be happening as planned at 00:00 UTC on the 25th (or the afternoon/evening of the 24th, if you're in our end of the world.) The agenda is open, and as usual times and conversion links can be found on Meta at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours Thanks! -- Steven Walling Fellow at Wikimedia Foundation wikimediafoundation.org

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NY Update
by Sandra ordonez 24 Feb '11

24 Feb '11

First of all, thank you Pharos for helping us NY chics connect! Second, if there are any NY chics we missed, a few of us are having a real/virtual meeting tomorrow at 7:00pm. Two of us are meeting in real person (Resistor, Brooklyn), and two of us are meeting via skype. We will be brainstorming on things we can do locally and essentially create a plan of action:) We will share with guys what we come up with. Super excited!! WOO HOO! Wish us luck! Sandy :)

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a post in El Pais blog
by marcos 23 Feb '11

23 Feb '11

For whom they do not know it, El País is one of the most important newspapers of Spain. In its blog an interesting post has been published, brings over of the problem that occupies us. It's in spanish, of course .... but it's not difificult of translating to the english (if someone wants it, it is possible to do an attempt). You can read in http://blogs.elpais.com/mujeres/2011/02/los-hombres-son-de-wikipedia-y-las-… hasta luego. Marcos (aka Marctaltor)

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"Wikipedia is Sexist"
by Fred Bauder 23 Feb '11

23 Feb '11

"The title is intentionally provocative, and echoes a line I recently read in a satirical novel about the NYC literary scene in the '70s: "Technique is racist." To be clear, I'm not accusing any particular person or particular group of people of sexism, I'm saying that the entity/system itself fosters sexism (gender bias, if you prefer)." http://thefrenchexit.blogspot.com/2011/02/wikipedia-is-sexist.html Fred

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