Google+ Users Are Still Mostly Male
http://mashable.com/2011/11/09/google-plus-gender-ratio/
Also includes a nice (and depressing) chart that depicts gender ratios on
other social media pages (Bebo and Myspace are the most female dominated -
lame!)
-Sarah
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I don't know how else to say in that I thought these were emails -- not for
publication and therefore googleable. I want my comments removed. The
link to which I was sent to "remove" items is not a working link. I'm very
frustrated and upset that this has happened. THIS WILL HAVE A DELETERIOUS
EFFECT IN MY CAREER because people will be googling my film and will read
all of this and that outside of any context -- including nasty conjectures
and suppositions about my character. And even this will be published. So
I can't say anything else here. My time is limited and I can't spend it
doing something that seems like a bottomless pit.
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> 2. Mind the Gap(s)! Writing Styles of Female Editors on
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> 3. Suggestions on improved content for Wikimedia Commons
> (Sarah Stierch)
> 4. Arizona Womens Heritage Trail (Sarah Stierch)
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> 6. Women Fight back Trolls (Sandra ordonez)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 09:05:37 +0100
> From: "Federico Leva (Nemo)" <nemowiki(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Please delete gendergaps Googleable links
> about me --
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> Migdia Chinea, 05/11/2011 06:01:
> > I'm very disturbed that my comments are now googleable. And I guess so
> > is this one I'm writing right now. There's no context and it's just ery
> > disturbing. My short has been seen in 25 film festivals around the
> > world and now it appears that any comment I make is googleable, which
> > will have a deleterious effect on me in terms of getting a job. Please
> > remove all my comments. I'm really upset -- I'm afraid of what I say.
>
> Until this is a public mailing list, see
> <
> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Remove_a_message_from_mailing_list_arch…
> >
>
> Nemo
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 19:18:45 +1100
> From: Laura Hale <laura(a)fanhistory.com>
> Subject: [Gendergap] Mind the Gap(s)! Writing Styles of Female Editors
> on Wikipedia
> To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects
> <gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
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> "...This analysis will focus on characteristics of female participants on
> English Wikipedia. The analysis will look to see if these participants are
> representative of the female English speaking population. The analysis will
> also explore, through some existing literature and in the conclusion, the
> question of whether these potential differences could matter when planning
> strategy to target the gender gap. ?"
>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mind_the_Gap
>
> Sincerely,
> Laura Hale
>
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Hi everyone,
I want to congratulate Sumana Harihareswara, Volunteer Development
Coordinator<http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/05/03/welcome-sumana-harihareswara-volunteer…>for
the Wikimedia Foundation, on being chosen as Femmeonomics "50 Women to
Watch in Tech." She's listed alongside some really amazing women -
including Valerie Aurora who is a friend of this mailing list and
co-founder of the Ada Initiative. <http://adainitiative.org/>[1]
She's quite a voice within the community - encouraging developers and
programmers to get involved in Wikimedia and participating in conferences
like Open Source
Bridge<http://blip.tv/open-source-bridge/open-source-bridge-2011-sumana-hariharesw…>.
On a personal note, Sumana has been a beam of encouragement for me, and has
helped me gain confidence in regards to my "open source skills" and helping
me learn more about feminist and women's roles and organizations in the
open source community. She's also great to share a bottle of wine with.
Congratulations Sumana! We'll be watching (pressures on!)....
-Sarah
[1] Currently only the first ten are listed, but the rest are on the way!
http://femme-o-nomics.com/2011/10/the-50-women-to-watch-in-tech-the-first-1…
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Re: Suggestions for Improved Content on Wikimedia
I was wondering if it would be a good idea to maybe approach some of the folks who have "fashion blogs", to see if they'd be willing to donate older photos. Even photos that are more than a couple of years old would be very useful for illustrating different fashion-related articles. There might be personality-right problems, though, I don't know what the legalities would be. A solution to that might be having the images pixelated or adding the bar-across-the-eyes (like in the Glamour magazine dos-and-donts feature).
Audrey
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Wikipedia (Laura Hale)
3. Suggestions on improved content for Wikimedia Commons
(Sarah Stierch)
4. Arizona Womens Heritage Trail (Sarah Stierch)
5. Interesting article that can use some help - Fallen woman
(Sarah Stierch)
6. Women Fight back Trolls (Sandra ordonez)
7. Congratulations to WMF's Sumana Harihareswara! (Sarah Stierch)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 09:05:37 +0100
From: "Federico Leva (Nemo)" <nemowiki(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Please delete gendergaps Googleable links
about me --
To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects
<gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
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Migdia Chinea, 05/11/2011 06:01:
> I'm very disturbed that my comments are now googleable. And I guess so
> is this one I'm writing right now. There's no context and it's just ery
> disturbing. My short has been seen in 25 film festivals around the
> world and now it appears that any comment I make is googleable, which
> will have a deleterious effect on me in terms of getting a job. Please
> remove all my comments. I'm really upset -- I'm afraid of what I say.
Until this is a public mailing list, see
<https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Remove_a_message_from_mailing_list_archive#Considerations_for_requesters>
Nemo
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 19:18:45 +1100
From: Laura Hale <laura(a)fanhistory.com>
Subject: [Gendergap] Mind the Gap(s)! Writing Styles of Female Editors
on Wikipedia
To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects
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"...This analysis will focus on characteristics of female participants on
English Wikipedia. The analysis will look to see if these participants are
representative of the female English speaking population. The analysis will
also explore, through some existing literature and in the conclusion, the
question of whether these potential differences could matter when planning
strategy to target the gender gap. ?"
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mind_the_Gap
Sincerely,
Laura Hale
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Hi everyone,
Tonight Dominic (User:Dominic) shared the Arizona Womens Heritage Trail (
http://womensheritagetrail.org/) with me. We decided to make a project page
for it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Feminism/Projects/AWHT_b…
Some really amazing biographies and places that are lacking in quality or
aren't on Wikipedia. We were both pretty enamored with the stories!
Perhaps you'll learn about a woman or place you'd like to add to Wikipedia
in any language =)
-Sarah
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"...This analysis will focus on characteristics of female participants on
English Wikipedia. The analysis will look to see if these participants are
representative of the female English speaking population. The analysis will
also explore, through some existing literature and in the conclusion, the
question of whether these potential differences could matter when planning
strategy to target the gender gap. …"
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mind_the_Gap
Sincerely,
Laura Hale
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http://www.mail-archive.com/gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org/msg01279.html
I'm very disturbed that my comments are now googleable. And I guess so is
this one I'm writing right now. There's no context and it's just ery
disturbing. My short has been seen in 25 film festivals around the world
and now it appears that any comment I make is googleable, which will have a
deleterious effect on me in terms of getting a job. Please remove all my
comments. I'm really upset -- I'm afraid of what I say.
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 3:54 AM, <gendergap-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org>wrote:
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> 1. Catherine Hamlin (Gillian White)
> 2. Girl Geeks and a Wikipedia Editing Day (Fiona Apps)
> 3. Women celebrating...women! (Sarah Stierch)
> 4. Re: the state of civility on en.wiki (Nathan)
> 5. Re: the state of civility on en.wiki (Risker) (SpeedyGonsales)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 10:59:12 +1100
> From: Gillian White <whiteghost.ink(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: [Gendergap] Catherine Hamlin
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> Dear All,
>
> Since [[Catherine Hamlin]] was invited to lunch by the Queen last week
> during her visit here, I thought her article ought to be improved.
> (Hamlin's, that is.) It and its companion, the [[Addis Ababa Fistula
> Hospital]] were a bit of a mess so I have separated them out and organised
> them, linking all the awards and hopefully explaining Hamlin's
> contributions better.
>
> I mentioned her before in an earlier email on this list but now I hope that
> readers can better see in these two articles why she is such an amazing
> person and such a heroine - someone IMHO of whom everyone on this list
> ought to be aware. This is a woman who is personally responsible for curing
> thousands of women who would otherwise be cast out and without hope. And
> she is still operating - still doing surgery in her mid-eighties and
> training others to follow on. In the cosmic scheme of things, had we we
> been born in a slightly different place or time, we might have been one of
> the women who needed help such as she provides. All her patients have an
> obstetric problem that we in the developed world do not have to worry about
> anymore as we solved it in the middle of the 20th century. It is completely
> preventable with good obstetric care and Hamlin has been giving that
> selflessly and expertly for 50 years. Here is someone making a real
> difference to women's lives and confronting problems far worse than name
> calling. My hat goes off to her ...
>
> Gillian
>
On 10/29/2011 12:45 AM, gendergap-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org wrote:
> In other words, as a community we create a climate where poor behaviour is
> the most effective means to motivate needed changes, where our policies and
> practices can be used as weapons both to support negative behaviour and also
> to "punish" positive behaviour, where the boundaries of unacceptable
> behaviour vary widely dependent on a large number of factors and enforcement
> is extraordinarily inconsistent, and where we openly claim to follow a
> behavioural model that*sounds* progressive but is in reality possibly even
> more nasty than our own.
>
> On reading far, far back into archives, it appears that "incivility" has
> been a problem almost since the inception of the project. In the early days
> of the project, blocks and bans were almost non-existent, and huge amounts
> of time were invested in trying to "correct" behaviour (considerably more
> per capita than today, the community cuts its losses much earlier now than
> in 2002-04). In fact, blocks and bans were very rare until the arrival of
> extensive trolling and vandalism in 2005-06, which led to the appointment of
> a massive number of administrators in 2006-07 in order to address these
> problems.
>
> None of this speaks to solutions, I know. But it is important to put the
> discussion into a more historical context, and to recognize the flashpoints
> where incivility is often identified.
>
> Risker/Anne
http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2005/05/a-group-is-its-own-worst-enemy.html
"As a community grows, these types of rules-- neither social nor technical,
but a hybrid of both-- become critical to the survival of the community.
If moderators fail to step in, the damage can be fatal."
"The likelihood that any unmoderated group will eventually get into
a flame-war about whether or not to have a moderator approaches one
as time increases."
----------
From my experience (on hr wiki), biggest problem a group (wikiproject)
can have are moderators(admins) which are not up to the task.
And I am admin (and bureaucrat and CU) who sometimes was but
sometimes also wasn't up to the task, and trolls used that to the maximum.
En wiki is big, so it will not break if one relatively civil troll hurts
and drive
away 1, 10 or even 50 normal users, but on small projects one or two
such trolls can break WHOLE project either for a year of two, or even
longer.
Although consequences are not the same, solution should be the same:
Wikipedia is a project
its users are a group
this project harbors free language and freedom of thought
but trolls should be banned on spot. Sooner the better.
Longer the discussion, more damage to the project.
(longer the discussion with troll, or discussion should troll be blocked
or not and for how long - trolls should be blocked for good).
----------
Notice: I didn't check ANY edit of (problematic) user subject of this
thread,
so I don't know is he or isn't he a troll, and I don't care.
If he is, he should be blocked for good, sooner the better.
If he isn't, all who are writing bad here about him are paranoids.
Beware: smart trolling is very similar to normal argument. So it is very
easy
to let it go, but damage become bigger with every message troll posts.
Kind regards
This month Lori Phillips, Wikipedian in Residence at the Children's Museum
of Indianapolis has a two page spread in Indianapolis Woman, Indiana's
biggest magazine dedicated to women.
http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/03afc96c#/03afc96c/16
Lori isn't on this list, so I cc'd her, but, I just wanted to share the
article with everyone here - thumbs up to Lori and and thumbs up to
Indianapolis Woman for taking notice of Lori's great work in the GLAM WIKI
movement.
No mention of gender concerns or anything like that, but, that doesn't
matter - female Wikipedians getting shown in a positive light about their
work is always needed. Congratulations Lori!
-Sarah
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