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FYI dear community member
Abel Lifaefi Mbula Free Software Dev Free Culture Enthousiast
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---------- Forwarded message --------- From: patience kavira patiencekavira@gmail.com Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2023 at 13:07 Subject: Fwd: My project was stolen by a user from Rwanda - User:Nkunda102 To: Abel MBULA (via Google Drive) bam6192@gmail.com
---------- Forwarded message --------- De : patience kavira patiencekavira@gmail.com Date: sam. 18 févr. 2023 à 12:55 Subject: My project was stolen by a user from Rwanda - User:Nkunda102 To: fdevouard@anthere.org fdevouard@anthere.org, donatien.kanga@gmail.com donatien.kanga@gmail.com, emmanuelleg22@gmail.com emmanuelleg22@gmail.com, isla@wikiinafrica.org isla@wikiinafrica.org Cc: wikifranca@lists.wikimedia.fr, < african-wikimedians@lists.wikimedia.org>, wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Dear Florence,
It is with great regret that I am writing to report suspicious behavior by a user from Rwanda.
As part of the African Environment project that you are conducting in partnership with Wikimedia CI, I have submitted a funding request since February 14th [1].
However, as I was checking this morning to see if you have already decided on my project, I was surprised to see that the project has been slightly modified, and I am no longer the project owner. It is now the user Nkunda102 who has taken over the project. I did not want to simply undo his modifications, at the risk that he might come back again. I want to bring the situation to your level so that you know what to do, but at the same time, I would like to alert the whole community so that such behavior cannot happen again, because it tarnishes the image of Africa, as well as of Wikipedia.
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Africa_Environment/Microfunding/Let%E2%80%99...
Kind regards,
Patience Kavira Environmental specialist University of Kisangani
Thanks Abel for bringing our community ‘s attention to this issue though ( I don’t think using all these avenues before reaching to the user who did that was really necessary but I understand the context )
I just had a phone call with user:Nkunda102 , he is newbie with no skills of editing the metapage, he regrets his actions and will write a formal apology to the original author and the team receiving grants .
Best regards
On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 at 13:10 Abel MBULA bam6192@gmail.com wrote:
Forward as received
FYI dear community member
Abel Lifaefi Mbula Free Software Dev Free Culture Enthousiast
Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: patience kavira patiencekavira@gmail.com Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2023 at 13:07 Subject: Fwd: My project was stolen by a user from Rwanda - User:Nkunda102 To: Abel MBULA (via Google Drive) bam6192@gmail.com
---------- Forwarded message --------- De : patience kavira patiencekavira@gmail.com Date: sam. 18 févr. 2023 à 12:55 Subject: My project was stolen by a user from Rwanda - User:Nkunda102 To: fdevouard@anthere.org fdevouard@anthere.org, donatien.kanga@gmail.com donatien.kanga@gmail.com, emmanuelleg22@gmail.com emmanuelleg22@gmail.com, isla@wikiinafrica.org < isla@wikiinafrica.org> Cc: wikifranca@lists.wikimedia.fr, < african-wikimedians@lists.wikimedia.org>, <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Dear Florence,
It is with great regret that I am writing to report suspicious behavior by a user from Rwanda.
As part of the African Environment project that you are conducting in partnership with Wikimedia CI, I have submitted a funding request since February 14th [1].
However, as I was checking this morning to see if you have already decided on my project, I was surprised to see that the project has been slightly modified, and I am no longer the project owner. It is now the user Nkunda102 who has taken over the project. I did not want to simply undo his modifications, at the risk that he might come back again. I want to bring the situation to your level so that you know what to do, but at the same time, I would like to alert the whole community so that such behavior cannot happen again, because it tarnishes the image of Africa, as well as of Wikipedia.
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Africa_Environment/Microfunding/Let%E2%80%99...
Kind regards,
Patience Kavira Environmental specialist University of Kisangani
--
derrick
Dear Patience
Thank you for alerting us to this matter. I believe you would not have received this message below from Ndahiro Derrick - thank you Derrick for taking action.
This seems to be a case of a new person being too enthusiastic and making an unintentional mistake- there does not seem to be any ill intent.
User:Moumou82 has reverted all the edits that the newbie did, and your submission is re-assigned to you (User:Salimasi) as the original creator.
There should be no more confusion.
Good luck with the rest of the process!
warmest Isla
On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 at 16:11, Ndahiro Derrick Alter ndahiroderric@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Abel for bringing our community ‘s attention to this issue though ( I don’t think using all these avenues before reaching to the user who did that was really necessary but I understand the context )
I just had a phone call with user:Nkunda102 , he is newbie with no skills of editing the metapage, he regrets his actions and will write a formal apology to the original author and the team receiving grants .
Best regards
On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 at 13:10 Abel MBULA bam6192@gmail.com wrote:
Forward as received
FYI dear community member
Abel Lifaefi Mbula Free Software Dev Free Culture Enthousiast
Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: patience kavira patiencekavira@gmail.com Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2023 at 13:07 Subject: Fwd: My project was stolen by a user from Rwanda - User:Nkunda102 To: Abel MBULA (via Google Drive) bam6192@gmail.com
---------- Forwarded message --------- De : patience kavira patiencekavira@gmail.com Date: sam. 18 févr. 2023 à 12:55 Subject: My project was stolen by a user from Rwanda - User:Nkunda102 To: fdevouard@anthere.org fdevouard@anthere.org, donatien.kanga@gmail.com donatien.kanga@gmail.com, emmanuelleg22@gmail.com emmanuelleg22@gmail.com, isla@wikiinafrica.org isla@wikiinafrica.org Cc: wikifranca@lists.wikimedia.fr, < african-wikimedians@lists.wikimedia.org>, < wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
Dear Florence,
It is with great regret that I am writing to report suspicious behavior by a user from Rwanda.
As part of the African Environment project that you are conducting in partnership with Wikimedia CI, I have submitted a funding request since February 14th [1].
However, as I was checking this morning to see if you have already decided on my project, I was surprised to see that the project has been slightly modified, and I am no longer the project owner. It is now the user Nkunda102 who has taken over the project. I did not want to simply undo his modifications, at the risk that he might come back again. I want to bring the situation to your level so that you know what to do, but at the same time, I would like to alert the whole community so that such behavior cannot happen again, because it tarnishes the image of Africa, as well as of Wikipedia.
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Africa_Environment/Microfunding/Let%E2%80%99...
Kind regards,
Patience Kavira Environmental specialist University of Kisangani
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Dear Isla
I thanks you so much for the follow-up as well as the whole community. I totally understand the case of a newbee.
Kind regards,
Le lun. 20 févr. 2023 à 16:00, Isla Haddow-Flood isla@wikiinafrica.org a écrit :
Dear Patience
Thank you for alerting us to this matter. I believe you would not have received this message below from Ndahiro Derrick - thank you Derrick for taking action.
This seems to be a case of a new person being too enthusiastic and making an unintentional mistake- there does not seem to be any ill intent.
User:Moumou82 has reverted all the edits that the newbie did, and your submission is re-assigned to you (User:Salimasi) as the original creator.
There should be no more confusion.
Good luck with the rest of the process!
warmest Isla
On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 at 16:11, Ndahiro Derrick Alter < ndahiroderric@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Abel for bringing our community ‘s attention to this issue though ( I don’t think using all these avenues before reaching to the user who did that was really necessary but I understand the context )
I just had a phone call with user:Nkunda102 , he is newbie with no skills of editing the metapage, he regrets his actions and will write a formal apology to the original author and the team receiving grants .
Best regards
On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 at 13:10 Abel MBULA bam6192@gmail.com wrote:
Forward as received
FYI dear community member
Abel Lifaefi Mbula Free Software Dev Free Culture Enthousiast
Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: patience kavira patiencekavira@gmail.com Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2023 at 13:07 Subject: Fwd: My project was stolen by a user from Rwanda - User:Nkunda102 To: Abel MBULA (via Google Drive) bam6192@gmail.com
---------- Forwarded message --------- De : patience kavira patiencekavira@gmail.com Date: sam. 18 févr. 2023 à 12:55 Subject: My project was stolen by a user from Rwanda - User:Nkunda102 To: fdevouard@anthere.org fdevouard@anthere.org, donatien.kanga@gmail.com donatien.kanga@gmail.com, emmanuelleg22@gmail.com emmanuelleg22@gmail.com, isla@wikiinafrica.org isla@wikiinafrica.org Cc: wikifranca@lists.wikimedia.fr, < african-wikimedians@lists.wikimedia.org>, < wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
Dear Florence,
It is with great regret that I am writing to report suspicious behavior by a user from Rwanda.
As part of the African Environment project that you are conducting in partnership with Wikimedia CI, I have submitted a funding request since February 14th [1].
However, as I was checking this morning to see if you have already decided on my project, I was surprised to see that the project has been slightly modified, and I am no longer the project owner. It is now the user Nkunda102 who has taken over the project. I did not want to simply undo his modifications, at the risk that he might come back again. I want to bring the situation to your level so that you know what to do, but at the same time, I would like to alert the whole community so that such behavior cannot happen again, because it tarnishes the image of Africa, as well as of Wikipedia.
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Africa_Environment/Microfunding/Let%E2%80%99...
Kind regards,
Patience Kavira Environmental specialist University of Kisangani
--
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Hi Derrick,
Thanks for forwarding it to the mailing list. In this particular case, the credit-snatching instance has been committed by a newcomer, as you mentioned. There can be a lot of arguments on whether the person did it intentionally or it was just a newbie mistake, but I'm not going towards that.
There are legal frameworks for determining the ownership of intellectual property. But how do you give proper credit to an organizer who led, for example, an image donation program? They must be credited for their hard work as Wikimedia organizers. Unfortunately, similar and even more obvious instances of credit snatching are taking place in the movement, sometimes by some of the most experienced wikimedians with a clear understanding of what they are doing. This is more evident in underrepresented communities, and there is no preventive method against it.
Best, Rafi
On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 8:11 PM Ndahiro Derrick Alter < ndahiroderric@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Abel for bringing our community ‘s attention to this issue though ( I don’t think using all these avenues before reaching to the user who did that was really necessary but I understand the context )
I just had a phone call with user:Nkunda102 , he is newbie with no skills of editing the metapage, he regrets his actions and will write a formal apology to the original author and the team receiving grants .
Best regards
On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 at 13:10 Abel MBULA bam6192@gmail.com wrote:
Forward as received
FYI dear community member
Abel Lifaefi Mbula Free Software Dev Free Culture Enthousiast
Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: patience kavira patiencekavira@gmail.com Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2023 at 13:07 Subject: Fwd: My project was stolen by a user from Rwanda - User:Nkunda102 To: Abel MBULA (via Google Drive) bam6192@gmail.com
---------- Forwarded message --------- De : patience kavira patiencekavira@gmail.com Date: sam. 18 févr. 2023 à 12:55 Subject: My project was stolen by a user from Rwanda - User:Nkunda102 To: fdevouard@anthere.org fdevouard@anthere.org, donatien.kanga@gmail.com donatien.kanga@gmail.com, emmanuelleg22@gmail.com emmanuelleg22@gmail.com, isla@wikiinafrica.org isla@wikiinafrica.org Cc: wikifranca@lists.wikimedia.fr, < african-wikimedians@lists.wikimedia.org>, < wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
Dear Florence,
It is with great regret that I am writing to report suspicious behavior by a user from Rwanda.
As part of the African Environment project that you are conducting in partnership with Wikimedia CI, I have submitted a funding request since February 14th [1].
However, as I was checking this morning to see if you have already decided on my project, I was surprised to see that the project has been slightly modified, and I am no longer the project owner. It is now the user Nkunda102 who has taken over the project. I did not want to simply undo his modifications, at the risk that he might come back again. I want to bring the situation to your level so that you know what to do, but at the same time, I would like to alert the whole community so that such behavior cannot happen again, because it tarnishes the image of Africa, as well as of Wikipedia.
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Africa_Environment/Microfunding/Let%E2%80%99...
Kind regards,
Patience Kavira Environmental specialist University of Kisangani
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Hello Rafi , thanks for clarifying more about cases like this but as I have put it , it was by a mistake done by newbie who didn’t has no metapage editing links at all .
to the office
On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 at 16:18 Mrb Rafi mrbrafi1971@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Derrick,
Thanks for forwarding it to the mailing list. In this particular case, the credit-snatching instance has been committed by a newcomer, as you mentioned. There can be a lot of arguments on whether the person did it intentionally or it was just a newbie mistake, but I'm not going towards that.
There are legal frameworks for determining the ownership of intellectual property. But how do you give proper credit to an organizer who led, for example, an image donation program? They must be credited for their hard work as Wikimedia organizers. Unfortunately, similar and even more obvious instances of credit snatching are taking place in the movement, sometimes by some of the most experienced wikimedians with a clear understanding of what they are doing. This is more evident in underrepresented communities, and there is no preventive method against it.
Best, Rafi
On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 8:11 PM Ndahiro Derrick Alter < ndahiroderric@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Abel for bringing our community ‘s attention to this issue though ( I don’t think using all these avenues before reaching to the user who did that was really necessary but I understand the context )
I just had a phone call with user:Nkunda102 , he is newbie with no skills of editing the metapage, he regrets his actions and will write a formal apology to the original author and the team receiving grants .
Best regards
On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 at 13:10 Abel MBULA bam6192@gmail.com wrote:
Forward as received
FYI dear community member
Abel Lifaefi Mbula Free Software Dev Free Culture Enthousiast
Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: patience kavira patiencekavira@gmail.com Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2023 at 13:07 Subject: Fwd: My project was stolen by a user from Rwanda - User:Nkunda102 To: Abel MBULA (via Google Drive) bam6192@gmail.com
---------- Forwarded message --------- De : patience kavira patiencekavira@gmail.com Date: sam. 18 févr. 2023 à 12:55 Subject: My project was stolen by a user from Rwanda - User:Nkunda102 To: fdevouard@anthere.org fdevouard@anthere.org, donatien.kanga@gmail.com donatien.kanga@gmail.com, emmanuelleg22@gmail.com emmanuelleg22@gmail.com, isla@wikiinafrica.org isla@wikiinafrica.org Cc: wikifranca@lists.wikimedia.fr, < african-wikimedians@lists.wikimedia.org>, < wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
Dear Florence,
It is with great regret that I am writing to report suspicious behavior by a user from Rwanda.
As part of the African Environment project that you are conducting in partnership with Wikimedia CI, I have submitted a funding request since February 14th [1].
However, as I was checking this morning to see if you have already decided on my project, I was surprised to see that the project has been slightly modified, and I am no longer the project owner. It is now the user Nkunda102 who has taken over the project. I did not want to simply undo his modifications, at the risk that he might come back again. I want to bring the situation to your level so that you know what to do, but at the same time, I would like to alert the whole community so that such behavior cannot happen again, because it tarnishes the image of Africa, as well as of Wikipedia.
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Africa_Environment/Microfunding/Let%E2%80%99...
Kind regards,
Patience Kavira Environmental specialist University of Kisangani
--
derrick
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