I don't think the size is the problem here but the disproportionate overrepresentation of some region/country.
I agree with Douglas on the need to increase the number of editors from Africa. This will also help to improve the coverages of Africa-related contents on Wikimedia projects. Asaf and Douglas, are you silently saying that among the continent/countries classified as Global South, Africa have the poorest contributions to Wikimedia projects? We got 4 scholarships out of 93 because we have the least number of active editors? Even if we have the lowest number of active editors, 3% quota is ridiculously too low.
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I agree with Douglas on the need to increase the number of editors from Africa. This will also help to improve the coverages of Africa-related contents on Wikimedia projects. Asaf and Douglas, are you silently saying that among the continent/countries classified as Global South, Africa have the poorest contributions to Wikimedia projects? We got 4 scholarships out of 93 because we have the least number of active editors? Even if we have the least number of active editors, 3% quota is ridiculously too low.
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I think Rexford and Asaf raise some good points here. If we are serious
about Africa having a stronger presence at future Wikimanias we must
improve our efforts at increasing the number of editors from the continent
whist encouraging more editors to apply for scholarships with high quality
applications. It's a long road to travel that requires a lot of work but I
feel that the rewards in terms of edits from African sources and
representation within the broader community make it well worth it.
Regards,
Douglas.
On 11 Mar 2016 23:13, "Nkansah Rexford" <nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you Ellie for the short breakdown of the stats in here. Will be on
> standby for more of these stats to be put up on the wiki.
>
> I think things will be more clearer when all the stats are up.
>
> Thanks.
> On 11 Mar 2016 7:25 pm, "Ellie Young" <eyoung(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
>> Isla,
>>
>> I am in the process of putting up information from the scholarship
>> committee onto the wiki and will respond to the other thread on wikimania-l
>> soon.
>>
>> 124 Scholarships were awarded.
>>
>> Of the 400 scholarships that passed into Phase 2 of the review, 20 were
>> African applicants passed Phase 2. 4 of those got scholarships, so by my
>> calculations that's 20% of the eligible African applicants.
>>
>> Geographic regions are *not* the emphasis of the program.
>>
>> You might want to take this up directly with the Scholarship Committee if
>> you have ideas for changes to the program in the future?
>>
>> Ellie Young
>> WMF Events Manager
>> on behalf of the Scholarship Committee
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 6:18 AM, Isla Haddow Flood <
>> isla(a)wikiloveswomen.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Okay - so - of 170 potential full and partial scholarships offered by
>>> the WMF, Africa got 4.
>>>
>>> FOUR.
>>>
>>> that is 0.02% of what was on offer.
>>>
>>> Mexico I could understand was difficult to access. BUT you couldn’t get
>>> closer to Africa than Italy, if you tried.
>>>
>>> That is just not acceptable.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11 Mar 2016, at 3:50 PM, Douglas Scott <douglas.i.scott(a)gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I got a partial scholarship which means I wont have to pay to be at the
>>> conference venue but I will have to pay for my own flight.
>>>
>>> On 11 March 2016 at 15:43, Ian Gilfillan <wikimediaza(a)greenman.co.za>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I applied, also didn't get.
>>>>
>>>> On 11/03/2016 14:46, Isla Haddow Flood wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello All
>>>>
>>>> Just want to do a quick head count to see who got a scholarship to
>>>> attend Wikimania. Please just let us know who got one, and who didn’t.
>>>>
>>>> thanks!
>>>> Isla
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> African-Wikimedians mailing list
>>>> African-Wikimedians(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Douglas Ian Scott
>>> 司道格
>>> Skype: douglas0scott
>>> South African mobile number: +27 (0)79 515 8727
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> African-Wikimedians mailing list
>>> African-Wikimedians(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians
>>>
>>>
>>> *Isla Haddow-Flood*
>>> Project Manager: WikiAfrica
>>> Username: Islahaddow
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ellie Young
>> Events Manager
>> Wikimedia Foundation
>> eyoung(a)wikimedia.org
>> c. 510 701 8649
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians
>>
>>
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I agree with Douglas on the need to increase the number of editors from Africa. This will also help to improve the coverages of Africa-related contents on Wikimedia projects. Asaf and Douglas, are you silently saying that among the continent/countries classified as Global South, Africa have the poorest contributions to Wikimedia projects? We got 4 scholarships out of 93 because we have the least number of active editors? Even if we have the least number of active editors, 3% quota is ridiculously too low.
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I think Rexford and Asaf raise some good points here. If we are serious
about Africa having a stronger presence at future Wikimanias we must
improve our efforts at increasing the number of editors from the continent
whist encouraging more editors to apply for scholarships with high quality
applications. It's a long road to travel that requires a lot of work but I
feel that the rewards in terms of edits from African sources and
representation within the broader community make it well worth it.
Regards,
Douglas.
On 11 Mar 2016 23:13, "Nkansah Rexford" <nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you Ellie for the short breakdown of the stats in here. Will be on
> standby for more of these stats to be put up on the wiki.
>
> I think things will be more clearer when all the stats are up.
>
> Thanks.
> On 11 Mar 2016 7:25 pm, "Ellie Young" <eyoung(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
>> Isla,
>>
>> I am in the process of putting up information from the scholarship
>> committee onto the wiki and will respond to the other thread on wikimania-l
>> soon.
>>
>> 124 Scholarships were awarded.
>>
>> Of the 400 scholarships that passed into Phase 2 of the review, 20 were
>> African applicants passed Phase 2. 4 of those got scholarships, so by my
>> calculations that's 20% of the eligible African applicants.
>>
>> Geographic regions are *not* the emphasis of the program.
>>
>> You might want to take this up directly with the Scholarship Committee if
>> you have ideas for changes to the program in the future?
>>
>> Ellie Young
>> WMF Events Manager
>> on behalf of the Scholarship Committee
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 6:18 AM, Isla Haddow Flood <
>> isla(a)wikiloveswomen.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Okay - so - of 170 potential full and partial scholarships offered by
>>> the WMF, Africa got 4.
>>>
>>> FOUR.
>>>
>>> that is 0.02% of what was on offer.
>>>
>>> Mexico I could understand was difficult to access. BUT you couldn’t get
>>> closer to Africa than Italy, if you tried.
>>>
>>> That is just not acceptable.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11 Mar 2016, at 3:50 PM, Douglas Scott <douglas.i.scott(a)gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I got a partial scholarship which means I wont have to pay to be at the
>>> conference venue but I will have to pay for my own flight.
>>>
>>> On 11 March 2016 at 15:43, Ian Gilfillan <wikimediaza(a)greenman.co.za>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I applied, also didn't get.
>>>>
>>>> On 11/03/2016 14:46, Isla Haddow Flood wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello All
>>>>
>>>> Just want to do a quick head count to see who got a scholarship to
>>>> attend Wikimania. Please just let us know who got one, and who didn’t.
>>>>
>>>> thanks!
>>>> Isla
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> African-Wikimedians mailing list
>>>> African-Wikimedians(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Douglas Ian Scott
>>> 司道格
>>> Skype: douglas0scott
>>> South African mobile number: +27 (0)79 515 8727
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> African-Wikimedians mailing list
>>> African-Wikimedians(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians
>>>
>>>
>>> *Isla Haddow-Flood*
>>> Project Manager: WikiAfrica
>>> Username: Islahaddow
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ellie Young
>> Events Manager
>> Wikimedia Foundation
>> eyoung(a)wikimedia.org
>> c. 510 701 8649
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians
>>
>>
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Dear Ellie Young
Thank you for this information.
Aside, the parameter used for your calculation which is the no of eligible applicants from Africa. I am of the opinion that your parameter only window dress the effect of the selection to show that the selection is fair to Africa.
However, if you used "Total Number of Scholarships awarded against the number of African selected" you will noticed that we only have 3%. Though, we may not have the voice to push through our points, but the fact remains the selection is just unfair to the world second largest continent. http://www.africapedia.com/-SIZE-OF-AFRICA-COMPARED-TO-OTHER-CONTINENTS.
Though, you mentioned that "Geography regions are "not" the emphasis of the program'. In my opinion, this is the missing link in the organisation of the event year in year out. No wonder, some continents are fast developing while others are struggling. I
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Isla,
I am in the process of putting up information from the scholarship
committee onto the wiki and will respond to the other thread on wikimania-l
soon.
124 Scholarships were awarded.
Of the 400 scholarships that passed into Phase 2 of the review, 20 were
African applicants passed Phase 2. 4 of those got scholarships, so by my
calculations that's 20% of the eligible African applicants.
Geographic regions are *not* the emphasis of the program.
You might want to take this up directly with the Scholarship Committee if
you have ideas for changes to the program in the future?
Ellie Young
WMF Events Manager
on behalf of the Scholarship Committee
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 6:18 AM, Isla Haddow Flood <isla(a)wikiloveswomen.org>
wrote:
> Okay - so - of 170 potential full and partial scholarships offered by the
> WMF, Africa got 4.
>
> FOUR.
>
> that is 0.02% of what was on offer.
>
> Mexico I could understand was difficult to access. BUT you couldn’t get
> closer to Africa than Italy, if you tried.
>
> That is just not acceptable.
>
>
> On 11 Mar 2016, at 3:50 PM, Douglas Scott <douglas.i.scott(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I got a partial scholarship which means I wont have to pay to be at the
> conference venue but I will have to pay for my own flight.
>
> On 11 March 2016 at 15:43, Ian Gilfillan <wikimediaza(a)greenman.co.za>
> wrote:
>
>> I applied, also didn't get.
>>
>> On 11/03/2016 14:46, Isla Haddow Flood wrote:
>>
>> Hello All
>>
>> Just want to do a quick head count to see who got a scholarship to attend
>> Wikimania. Please just let us know who got one, and who didn’t.
>>
>> thanks!
>> Isla
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> African-Wikimedians mailing list
>> African-Wikimedians(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Douglas Ian Scott
> 司道格
> Skype: douglas0scott
> South African mobile number: +27 (0)79 515 8727
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
> *Isla Haddow-Flood*
> Project Manager: WikiAfrica
> Username: Islahaddow
>
>
>
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I'm a bit worried about Ellie Young's comment that "Geographic regions are *not* the emphasis of the program."
My understanding of Wikimania Scholarship program is that Full scholarships are subject to quotas, while there is usually no geographical or linguistic limit to partial scholarships.
However, final approval for Full Scholarships is based on the applicant's home country, each applicant will be categorized as either a Global North or Global South applicant, with the total number of scholarships distributed between the Global North and Global South being set at 25% and 75% respectively.
The Global South includes Asia (with the exception of Japan, Hong Kong, Macau, Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan), Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East (with the exception of Israel). If 124 scholarship was awarded, and 75% is expected to be awarded for global south, it means, 93 Wikimedians are expected to get the scholarship from these region. Since global south consists of Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East, then no fewer than 15 Wikimedians are expected to get scholarship from Africa. Unless I'm missing something. If only 4 Wikimedians got scholarship from Africa, where are the 89 scholarships?
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Olatunde Isaac.
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I'm a bit worried about Ellie Young's comment that "Geographic regions are *not* the emphasis of the program."
My understanding of Wikimania Scholarship program is that Full scholarships are subject to quotas, while there is usually no geographical or linguistic limit to partial scholarships.
However, final approval for Full Scholarships is based on the applicant's home country, each applicant will be categorized as either a Global North or Global South applicant, with the total number of scholarships distributed between the Global North and Global South being set at 25% and 75% respectively.
The Global South includes Asia (with the exception of Japan, Hong Kong, Macau, Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan), Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East (with the exception of Israel). If 124 scholarship was awarded, and 75% is expected to be awarded for global south, it means, 93 Wikimedians are expected to get the scholarship from these region. Since global south consists of Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East, then no fewer than 15 Wikimedians are expected to get scholarship from Africa. Unless I'm missing something. If only 4 Wikimedians got scholarship from Africa, where are the 89 scholarships?
Warmest regards,
Olatunde Isaac.
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Dear Ellie Young
Thank you for this information.
Aside, the parameter used for your calculation which is the no of eligible applicants from Africa. I am of the opinion that your parameter only window dress the effect of the selection to show that the selection is fair to Africa.
However, if you used "Total Number of Scholarships awarded against the number of African selected" you will noticed that we only have 3%. Though, we may not have the voice to push through our points, but the fact remains the selection is just unfair to the world second largest continent. http://www.africapedia.com/-SIZE-OF-AFRICA-COMPARED-TO-OTHER-CONTINENTS.
Though, you mentioned that "Geography regions are "not" the emphasis of the program'. In my opinion, this is the missing link in the organisation of the event year in year out. No wonder, some continents are fast developing while others are struggling. I
Let's take a clue...
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Isla,
I am in the process of putting up information from the scholarship
committee onto the wiki and will respond to the other thread on wikimania-l
soon.
124 Scholarships were awarded.
Of the 400 scholarships that passed into Phase 2 of the review, 20 were
African applicants passed Phase 2. 4 of those got scholarships, so by my
calculations that's 20% of the eligible African applicants.
Geographic regions are *not* the emphasis of the program.
You might want to take this up directly with the Scholarship Committee if
you have ideas for changes to the program in the future?
Ellie Young
WMF Events Manager
on behalf of the Scholarship Committee
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 6:18 AM, Isla Haddow Flood <isla(a)wikiloveswomen.org>
wrote:
> Okay - so - of 170 potential full and partial scholarships offered by the
> WMF, Africa got 4.
>
> FOUR.
>
> that is 0.02% of what was on offer.
>
> Mexico I could understand was difficult to access. BUT you couldn’t get
> closer to Africa than Italy, if you tried.
>
> That is just not acceptable.
>
>
> On 11 Mar 2016, at 3:50 PM, Douglas Scott <douglas.i.scott(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I got a partial scholarship which means I wont have to pay to be at the
> conference venue but I will have to pay for my own flight.
>
> On 11 March 2016 at 15:43, Ian Gilfillan <wikimediaza(a)greenman.co.za>
> wrote:
>
>> I applied, also didn't get.
>>
>> On 11/03/2016 14:46, Isla Haddow Flood wrote:
>>
>> Hello All
>>
>> Just want to do a quick head count to see who got a scholarship to attend
>> Wikimania. Please just let us know who got one, and who didn’t.
>>
>> thanks!
>> Isla
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> African-Wikimedians(a)lists.wikimedia.org
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>>
>>
>
>
> --
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> 司道格
> Skype: douglas0scott
> South African mobile number: +27 (0)79 515 8727
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>
>
> *Isla Haddow-Flood*
> Project Manager: WikiAfrica
> Username: Islahaddow
>
>
>
--
Ellie Young
Events Manager
Wikimedia Foundation
eyoung(a)wikimedia.org
c. 510 701 8649
I'm a bit worried about Ellie Young's comment that "Geographic regions are *not* the emphasis of the program."
My understanding of Wikimania Scholarship program is that Full scholarships are subject to quotas, while there is usually no geographical or linguistic limit to partial scholarships.
However, final approval for Full Scholarships is based on the applicant's home country, each applicant will be categorized as either a Global North or Global South applicant, with the total number of scholarships distributed between the Global North and Global South being set at 25% and 75% respectively.
The Global South includes Asia (with the exception of Japan, Hong Kong, Macau, Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan), Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East (with the exception of Israel). If 124 scholarship was awarded, and 75% is expected to be awarded for global south, it means, 93 Wikimedians are expected to get the scholarship from these region. Since global south consists of Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East, then no fewer than 15 Wikimedians are expected to get scholarship from Africa. Unless I'm missing something. If only 4 Wikimedians got scholarship from Africa, where are the 89 scholarships?
Warmest regards,
Olatunde Isaac.
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Dear Ellie Young
Thank you for this information.
Aside, the parameter used for your calculation which is the no of eligible applicants from Africa. I am of the opinion that your parameter only window dress the effect of the selection to show that the selection is fair to Africa.
However, if you used "Total Number of Scholarships awarded against the number of African selected" you will noticed that we only have 3%. Though, we may not have the voice to push through our points, but the fact remains the selection is just unfair to the world second largest continent. http://www.africapedia.com/-SIZE-OF-AFRICA-COMPARED-TO-OTHER-CONTINENTS.
Though, you mentioned that "Geography regions are "not" the emphasis of the program'. In my opinion, this is the missing link in the organisation of the event year in year out. No wonder, some continents are fast developing while others are struggling. I
Let's take a clue...
Olaniyan Olushola
Director, WUGN
Treasurer, FOSSFA
MD, Olbims Consulting
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Isla,
I am in the process of putting up information from the scholarship
committee onto the wiki and will respond to the other thread on wikimania-l
soon.
124 Scholarships were awarded.
Of the 400 scholarships that passed into Phase 2 of the review, 20 were
African applicants passed Phase 2. 4 of those got scholarships, so by my
calculations that's 20% of the eligible African applicants.
Geographic regions are *not* the emphasis of the program.
You might want to take this up directly with the Scholarship Committee if
you have ideas for changes to the program in the future?
Ellie Young
WMF Events Manager
on behalf of the Scholarship Committee
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 6:18 AM, Isla Haddow Flood <isla(a)wikiloveswomen.org>
wrote:
> Okay - so - of 170 potential full and partial scholarships offered by the
> WMF, Africa got 4.
>
> FOUR.
>
> that is 0.02% of what was on offer.
>
> Mexico I could understand was difficult to access. BUT you couldn’t get
> closer to Africa than Italy, if you tried.
>
> That is just not acceptable.
>
>
> On 11 Mar 2016, at 3:50 PM, Douglas Scott <douglas.i.scott(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I got a partial scholarship which means I wont have to pay to be at the
> conference venue but I will have to pay for my own flight.
>
> On 11 March 2016 at 15:43, Ian Gilfillan <wikimediaza(a)greenman.co.za>
> wrote:
>
>> I applied, also didn't get.
>>
>> On 11/03/2016 14:46, Isla Haddow Flood wrote:
>>
>> Hello All
>>
>> Just want to do a quick head count to see who got a scholarship to attend
>> Wikimania. Please just let us know who got one, and who didn’t.
>>
>> thanks!
>> Isla
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> African-Wikimedians mailing list
>> African-Wikimedians(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Douglas Ian Scott
> 司道格
> Skype: douglas0scott
> South African mobile number: +27 (0)79 515 8727
> _______________________________________________
> African-Wikimedians mailing list
> African-Wikimedians(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians
>
>
> *Isla Haddow-Flood*
> Project Manager: WikiAfrica
> Username: Islahaddow
>
>
>
--
Ellie Young
Events Manager
Wikimedia Foundation
eyoung(a)wikimedia.org
c. 510 701 8649
I'm a bit worried about Ellie Young's comment that "Geographic regions are *not* the emphasis of the program."
My understanding of Wikimania Scholarship program is that Full scholarships are subject to quotas, while there is usually no geographical or linguistic limit to partial scholarships.
However, final approval for Full Scholarships is based on the applicant's home country, each applicant will be categorized as either a Global North or Global South applicant, with the total number of scholarships distributed between the Global North and Global South being set at 25% and 75% respectively.
The Global South includes Asia (with the exception of Japan, Hong Kong, Macau, Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan), Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East (with the exception of Israel). If 124 scholarship was awarded, and 75% is expected to be awarded for global south, it means, 93 Wikimedians are expected to get the scholarship from these region. Since global south consists of Turkey, Central America, South America, Mexico, Africa, and the Middle East, then no fewer than 15 Wikimedians are expected to get scholarship from Africa. Unless I'm missing something. If only 4 Wikimedians got scholarship from Africa, where are the 89 scholarships?
Warmest regards,
Olatunde Isaac.
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Isla,
I am in the process of putting up information from the scholarship
committee onto the wiki and will respond to the other thread on wikimania-l
soon.
124 Scholarships were awarded.
Of the 400 scholarships that passed into Phase 2 of the review, 20 were
African applicants passed Phase 2. 4 of those got scholarships, so by my
calculations that's 20% of the eligible African applicants.
Geographic regions are *not* the emphasis of the program.
You might want to take this up directly with the Scholarship Committee if
you have ideas for changes to the program in the future?
Ellie Young
WMF Events Manager
on behalf of the Scholarship Committee
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 6:18 AM, Isla Haddow Flood <isla(a)wikiloveswomen.org>
wrote:
> Okay - so - of 170 potential full and partial scholarships offered by the
> WMF, Africa got 4.
>
> FOUR.
>
> that is 0.02% of what was on offer.
>
> Mexico I could understand was difficult to access. BUT you couldn’t get
> closer to Africa than Italy, if you tried.
>
> That is just not acceptable.
>
>
> On 11 Mar 2016, at 3:50 PM, Douglas Scott <douglas.i.scott(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I got a partial scholarship which means I wont have to pay to be at the
> conference venue but I will have to pay for my own flight.
>
> On 11 March 2016 at 15:43, Ian Gilfillan <wikimediaza(a)greenman.co.za>
> wrote:
>
>> I applied, also didn't get.
>>
>> On 11/03/2016 14:46, Isla Haddow Flood wrote:
>>
>> Hello All
>>
>> Just want to do a quick head count to see who got a scholarship to attend
>> Wikimania. Please just let us know who got one, and who didn’t.
>>
>> thanks!
>> Isla
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> African-Wikimedians mailing list
>> African-Wikimedians(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Douglas Ian Scott
> 司道格
> Skype: douglas0scott
> South African mobile number: +27 (0)79 515 8727
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
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> Project Manager: WikiAfrica
> Username: Islahaddow
>
>
>
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Dear Ellie Young
Thank you for this information.
Aside, the parameter used for your calculation which is the no of eligible applicants from Africa. I am of the opinion that your parameter only window dress the effect of the selection to show that the selection is fair to Africa.
However, if you used "Total Number of Scholarships awarded against the number of African selected" you will noticed that we only have 3%. Though, we may not have the voice to push through our points, but the fact remains the selection is just unfair to the world second largest continent. http://www.africapedia.com/-SIZE-OF-AFRICA-COMPARED-TO-OTHER-CONTINENTS.
Though, you mentioned that "Geography regions are "not" the emphasis of the program'. In my opinion, this is the missing link in the organisation of the event year in year out. No wonder, some continents are fast developing while others are struggling. I
Let's take a clue...
Warmest
Olaniyan Olushola
Director, WUGN
Treasurer, FOSSFA
MD, Olbims Consulting
Phone: +2348154876844
Email: olaniyanshola15@gmail.com|olaniyanshola@yahoo.com|treasurer@fossfa.net
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Isla,
I am in the process of putting up information from the scholarship
committee onto the wiki and will respond to the other thread on wikimania-l
soon.
124 Scholarships were awarded.
Of the 400 scholarships that passed into Phase 2 of the review, 20 were
African applicants passed Phase 2. 4 of those got scholarships, so by my
calculations that's 20% of the eligible African applicants.
Geographic regions are *not* the emphasis of the program.
You might want to take this up directly with the Scholarship Committee if
you have ideas for changes to the program in the future?
Ellie Young
WMF Events Manager
on behalf of the Scholarship Committee
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 6:18 AM, Isla Haddow Flood <isla(a)wikiloveswomen.org>
wrote:
> Okay - so - of 170 potential full and partial scholarships offered by the
> WMF, Africa got 4.
>
> FOUR.
>
> that is 0.02% of what was on offer.
>
> Mexico I could understand was difficult to access. BUT you couldn’t get
> closer to Africa than Italy, if you tried.
>
> That is just not acceptable.
>
>
> On 11 Mar 2016, at 3:50 PM, Douglas Scott <douglas.i.scott(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I got a partial scholarship which means I wont have to pay to be at the
> conference venue but I will have to pay for my own flight.
>
> On 11 March 2016 at 15:43, Ian Gilfillan <wikimediaza(a)greenman.co.za>
> wrote:
>
>> I applied, also didn't get.
>>
>> On 11/03/2016 14:46, Isla Haddow Flood wrote:
>>
>> Hello All
>>
>> Just want to do a quick head count to see who got a scholarship to attend
>> Wikimania. Please just let us know who got one, and who didn’t.
>>
>> thanks!
>> Isla
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> African-Wikimedians mailing list
>> African-Wikimedians(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Douglas Ian Scott
> 司道格
> Skype: douglas0scott
> South African mobile number: +27 (0)79 515 8727
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
> *Isla Haddow-Flood*
> Project Manager: WikiAfrica
> Username: Islahaddow
>
>
>
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I did not apply so I obviously did not get the scholarship.
Kayode Yussuf
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I applied, also didn't get.
On 11/03/2016 14:46, Isla Haddow Flood wrote:
> Hello All
>
> Just want to do a quick head count to see who got a scholarship to
> attend Wikimania. Please just let us know who got one, and who didn’t.
>
> thanks!
> Isla
>
Hello,
I've got a full scholarship.
Best regards,
Habib from Tunisia
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>I applied, also didn't get.
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>On 11/03/2016 14:46, Isla Haddow Flood wrote:
>> Hello All
>>
>> Just want to do a quick head count to see who got a scholarship to
>> attend Wikimania. Please just let us know who got one, and who
>didn’t.
>>
>> thanks!
>> Isla
>>
>
>