Greetings, the name field is quite an important part of this survey so as to prevent individuals from participating more than once since we currently lack a way of preventing such. However, these names shouldn't be revealed to anyone after the survey or when the results are being released. It is an important ethical rule when conducting a survey to protect the information given by your respondents. In case the team requires extra information regarding the survey i.e data analysis or interpretation, all be more than glad to help. Happy Easter to all. Riwa On 4/21/11, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

Let me then brainstorm for a possible solution. I'll update you when I have something constructive. On 4/21/11, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

Greetings again. Steve, I really appreciate your opinion. However, let's be more realistic: Even in a questionnaire, the respondents feel more free to air their opinion when they have the security that not even one person will identify their specific responses. The fact that Wikimedia Kenya is Democratic alone will not give people the confidence to speak pure truth. In that case I am sorry to say that there are those who will give responses that are "edited" in order to ensure that they do not condemn me or Abbas or Oscar or Chris or Steve or Lilian or anybody else. Therefore the survey will just be a painted picture. @Chris, By "anyone" you mean even the one physically involved with the conduction of the survey right? @Abbas, You were on the right direction, and you gave it the best decision. In future we have to look for a better solution against multiple participation. You will agree with me that the name field doesn't solve the problem at all. I can poise as Grace and submit my survey under her name.... The best solution I can think of right now is this: Each person is at liberty to determine much of themselves they should give. As such, those who feel their privacy is jeopardized by their IDs being known can opt to use Anonymous in the name field. In this case I rely on the democratic maturity and responsibility of all the members since this is a voluntary exercise and does not benefit an individual in any way, such that no one should have any malicious reason to participate twice. Those are just my thoughts, and they are fully subject to criticism. Have a nice day y'all -- __________________________________________________________________________________ Samson Arosi Maosa, Jomo Kenyatta University of Agriculture and Technology, Bsc. Electronics and Computer Engineering +254750-nine-one-seven-three-zero-five *"In this world, everything has been done but suppose we try doing it in a different (better) way?"* Make someone know what you already know. Join us now at Wikimedia Kenya<http://www.wikimedia.or.ke>

Hi Guys A hot topic indeed.For those who feel the name field will compromise the outcome of the result then My take on this is>Remove the Name field completely or make it optional- this will lead to better result. I am hoping that members will be honest and responsible enough not to do the survey twice. Another alternative could be for the participants to use the word anonymous in the name field. For those who have no problem then feel free to write your name. THIS ARE JUST MY PERSONAL OPINIONS LASTLY CONGRATULATIONS TO ONE OSCAR LIMOKE for Mapping the schools in western province in the ongoing Google map maker competition.Remember the competition is still on till August and you stand to win a laptop or android phone. On 21/04/2011, stephen wanjau &lt;wanjaustev(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: -- Isaac K. Kosgei. Bachelor of Agribusiness Management Egerton University, Njoro Kenya. (+254727553981) www.linkedin.com/in/kipsizoo Skype:Kipsizoo Twitter:@Kipsizoo *"You Must be the Change you wish to see in the world"-Mahatma Ghandi *

good idea ,though i personally would have preffered an open minded approach yaani we put the name field mandatory,i mean members to have courage to give positive critique whenever necessary without the privacy thing ,like i would have prefered that i go on record for having aired my resentments openly and freely than in the background , ...thats my opinion but then if that are wishes of the majority then be it.... there are a number of fields on the wikipedia for schools which is o.k considering it was the first budget intensive project wikimedia kenya has undertaken . will have time to take the survey today, rgds. On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 9:24 AM, SAMSON MAOSA &lt;coolsam726(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

Hi Everyone, on.True we have received some "negative" critiscm in the past few days.And from the continued arguments in this thread,I am inclined to think maybe our critics are right?! First,I dont understand the need of the Survey?I mean to what end are we doing the survey??? I personally would suggest we have some sort of "AGM" where we can look back at our success,mistakes and staff on a more "humane" grounds with the aim of correcting and building on our success and mistakes not the "virtual" way. Plus some questions are very subjective and touch on individuals directly and personally I would rather not critic people behind there back especially in print....... Happy Easter, Limoke Oscar, mayenge.blogspot.com Freelancer, GeoInformatics and GIScience Student

Folks, what's wrong with yous? People have the right to change their opinion; people have the right to state their opinion anonymously; people have the right to feel miffed at criticism; people have the right to be sensitive . Okay, to cut a long story short: We're all just humans, so please treat each other accordingly :-) Finally: I'd also prefer to do this communication face-to-face but alas, that's not the world we're living in. Haya, tusonge mbele, Oliver (aka BT) PS: I've completed the survey! _____ From: wikimediake-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediake-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Abbas Mahmood Sent: 21 April 2011 13:32 To: The discussion list for the upcoming Wikimedia Kenya chapter. Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Survey I feel demoralized. I started this survey so that we can see where we are doing well and maximise on that and know where we are poor and learn from our mistakes. However, I did not intend to point fingers of accusation at people who are performing below average. That is why I said I will not disclose names. That is why, in the survey, I just put a general slot for ''quality of presentations'' rather than ''Grace's presentation'' or ''Ting's presentation''. I fail to understand how, for instance, rating quality of presentations as 1 will mean that David made a poor presentation. It merely means that next time, we will all collaborate beforehand and ensure that the presentations to be made are all of the desired quality. If you think that this is pointing fingers of accusation behind someone's back, then I'm sorry: I was merely assuming good faith. This survey is done online since at an AGM, not all people would attend, and thereby it wouldn't guarantee full participation. Critics will always be there. Now it's up to you to live in you own bubble and pretend you don't hear them or listen to them, and react appropriately. I think this causing more contoversy than expected, and maybe I was mistaken to create this survey in the first place. _____ Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 12:50:49 +0300 From: oslimoke(a)gmail.com To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Survey Hi Everyone, on.True we have received some "negative" critiscm in the past few days.And from the continued arguments in this thread,I am inclined to think maybe our critics are right?! First,I dont understand the need of the Survey?I mean to what end are we doing the survey??? I personally would suggest we have some sort of "AGM" where we can look back at our success,mistakes and staff on a more "humane" grounds with the aim of correcting and building on our success and mistakes not the "virtual" way. Plus some questions are very subjective and touch on individuals directly and personally I would rather not critic people behind there back especially in print....... Happy Easter, Limoke Oscar, mayenge.blogspot.com Freelancer, GeoInformatics and GIScience Student _______________________________________________ WikimediaKE mailing list WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake

Lilian, What do u mean being harsh? I am sorry if my thoughts and opinions hurt you on a personal level.All I was raising are my thoughts and opinions and if they hurt you,my sincerest apologies.... -- Limoke Oscar, mayenge.blogspot.com Freelancer, GeoInformatics and GIScience Student

Hi, in any our daily endeavors, it is quite normal to face criticism. However, the criticism is quite healthy since it helps us discover our weaknesses. My point - all this is quite normal and healthy and what really matters at this point is how we are going to solve the situation at hand. So, Abbas man-up and get this ball rolling your the one in charge. To the rest of us, the survey is the best way at the moment to try and get to know your opinions about the sensitive issues quickly and effectively. So lets get to business and fill the questionnaire before our next meet-up so that we can have the most contagious issues first on our agenda. Regarding the 'name thing',it really doesn't matter whether you put it or not. For those who don't feel like putting it you can as well write "Anonymous." However, it is important for you guys to be as sincere as possible when giving your opinions and answers as this is the current tool put in place to collect all your opinions before we can all decide on the best way forward. However, let us all maintain respect and integrity when expressing ourselves. Thank you all and lets move forward for we all belong to Wikimedia Kenya. PS Maosa: When conducting a survey, the researcher can't avoid knowing a little bit more regarding their respondents. however, it is their responsibility to ensure such information is not leaked out to the general public or any other party after the survey is done. So at this case, the one in charge (Researcher) can know the names but has to keep it a secret to him/herself. Looking forward to get some really response from this survey.

Guys Let this topic come to an end I support the initiative by Abbas to come up with the survey and am shocked at the kind of reactions that are coming up. i think instead of the thread message lets just do the survey if you feel the name is an issue please put anonymous period! On 21/04/2011, Alex Wafula &lt;xelawafs(a)yahoo.com&gt; wrote: -- Isaac K. Kosgei. Bachelor of Agribusiness Management Egerton University, Njoro Kenya. (+254727553981) www.linkedin.com/in/kipsizoo Skype:Kipsizoo Twitter:@Kipsizoo *"You Must be the Change you wish to see in the world"-Mahatma Ghandi *

Greetings all, hoping everyone is contented now. Speaking of WikiSaturday, since I am far from Nairobi I will start mine tomorrow. Whether it is Tomorrow I will do Swahili Wikipedia and on Saturday, if I get internet, will do English Wikipedia. Have a good friday all. -- __________________________________________________________________________________ Samson Arosi Maosa, Jomo Kenyatta University of Agriculture and Technology, Bsc. Electronics and Computer Engineering +254750-nine-one-seven-three-zero-five *"In this world, everything has been done but suppose we try doing it in a different (better) way?"* Make someone know what you already know. Join us now at Wikimedia Kenya<http://www.wikimedia.or.ke>

It is supposed to be on 30th. From: oliver_stegen(a)sil.org To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 19:06:56 +0300 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WikiSaturday I understood WikiSaturday to be on April 30, not April 23 … ?!? Alex, for when have you booked iHub? In any case, I may have to join you from home as family usually keeps me occupied on Saturdays. Oliver (aka BT) From: wikimediake-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediake-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of SAMSON MAOSA Sent: 21 April 2011 17:01 To: The discussion list for the upcoming Wikimedia Kenya chapter. Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Survey Greetings all, hoping everyone is contented now. Speaking of WikiSaturday, since I am far from Nairobi I will start mine tomorrow. Whether it is Tomorrow I will do Swahili Wikipedia and on Saturday, if I get internet, will do English Wikipedia. Have a good friday all. -- __________________________________________________________________________________ Samson Arosi Maosa, Jomo Kenyatta University of Agriculture and Technology, Bsc. Electronics and Computer Engineering +254750-nine-one-seven-three-zero-five "In this world, everything has been done but suppose we try doing it in a different (better) way?" Make someone know what you already know. Join us now at Wikimedia Kenya _______________________________________________ WikimediaKE mailing list WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake

PS: To those of you who're still convinced of Google translator's effectiveness when it comes to translating between English and Swahili; just look at its translation of my first paragraph and decide for yourself how much you understand (and whether you'd want such a translation in Wikipedia): Nina J'mosi something about the Wikipedia. Mkichangia articles Kiswahili (http://sw.wikipedia.org) Do not use while the translation of Google (http://translate.google.com/toolkit/) indiscriminately. First you must ensure that the target article ijaandikwa yet. If not you can delete the information that zimeshaingizwa another. So it did e.g. just yesterday with an article of author Marjorie Oludhe Macgoye Kenya, look here: http://sw.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marjorie_Oludhe_Macgoye&diff=… oldid=545629 It is true, in part a translation of the Google of yesterday had improved article on November 16, 2010 except for the greater part was badly affect, eg [[Category]] zilirudishwa all the [[Category]], and "category" false and also a link to [[fi:]] kilifutwa and many other things. Do not do it. It is the use of such distraction that our old wikipedia yamemkasirisha Pala. He is a "bureaucrat" to rely so often help. Msimkasirishe. Thank you! Thanks! Oliver (aka BT) _____ From: wikimediake-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediake-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Oliver Stegen Sent: 22 April 2011 07:44 To: 'The discussion list for the upcoming Wikimedia Kenya chapter.' Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WikiSaturday Sawa. [Caveat: The following is some detailed advice about contributing to the Swahili wikipedia, esp. how to avoid Google translator due to problems of over-writing articles and how to use some wiki conventions.] Nina jambo lingine kuhusu J'mosi ya Wikipedia. Mkichangia makala za Kiswahili ( <http://sw.wikipedia.org/> http://sw.wikipedia.org) msitumie kitambo cha utafsiri cha Google (http://translate.google.com/toolkit/) ovyoovyo. Kwanza lazima kuhakikisha kwamba makala lengwa haijaandikwa bado. Msipofanya hivyo mngeweza kufuta habari ambazo zimeshaingizwa na mwingine. Ndivyo ilivyofanyika k.m. jana tu na makala ya mwandishi wa Kenya Marjorie Oludhe Macgoye, angalieni hapa: http://sw.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marjorie_Oludhe_Macgoye <http://sw.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marjorie_Oludhe_Macgoye&diff=next &oldid=545629> &diff=next&oldid=545629 Ni kweli, kwa sehemu mtafsiri wa Google wa jana aliboresha makala ya tarehe 16 Novemba 2010 ila kwa sehemu kubwa zaidi aliiathiri vibaya, k.m. [[Jamii]] zote zilirudishwa kwenye [[Category]], tena "category" za uongo; pia kiungo cha [[fi:]] kilifutwa na mambo mengi mengineyo. Msifanye hivyo. Ni matumizi ya ovyo kama hayo ambayo yamemkasirisha mzee wetu wa wikipedia Kipala. Naye ni "bureaucrat" kwa hivyo mtamtegemea mara kwa mara kuwasaidieni. Msimkasirishe. Asanteni! Kwa mashauri mengine, angalieni nilivyomwandikia ndugu yetu Limoke mwaka jana (http://sw.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majadiliano_ya_mtumiaji:Mpmayenge): Ndugu Limoke, salaam! Wakati wa shindano, makala nyingi zimeanzishwa bila kuwekewa yaliyomo hata kidogo, nasi wanawikipedia hatukuwa na nafasi ya kurekebisha sana. Kwa hiyo sasa, naomba tusaidiane kusawazisha hizo makala. Kwa mfano, ungeweza kuanza kwa kuangalia orodha ya makala <http://sw.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maalum:KurasaZisizonajamii> bila jamii. Bila shaka utagundua kadhaa ambazo ni duni, labda yenye maneno mawili matatu tu. Ndivyo nilivyogundua k.m. na makala ya Henri Fayol <http://sw.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Fayol> , mhandisi Mfaransa wa karne ya 19. Sasa ukiangalia mabadiliko <http://sw.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Henri_Fayol&action=historysubmit& diff=364028&oldid=337882> niliyoyaingiza utapata mambo ya msingi ya wikipedia. K.m. naingiza kigezo cha {{DEFAULTSORT}} kwa ajili ya orodha ya makala katika jamii ifuate alfabeti vizuri. Tena naingiza jamii za miaka ya kuzaliwa (k.m. [[Jamii:Waliozaliwa 1841]]) na ya kufariki (k.m. [[Jamii:Waliofariki 1925]]). Pia, ikiwa ni makala fupi bila maelezo mengi, naingiza kigezo cha {{mbegu-mtu}} (yaani kama ni mtu). Hatimaye, naingiza kiungo kwa wikipedia ya Kiingereza (k.m. [[en:Henri Fayol]]) ambapo naweza kupata code kwa picha ya mtu (k.m. [[Image:Fonds henri fayol.jpg|thumb|right|Henri Fayol]]) pamoja na habari nyingine. Nitashukuru kwa msaada wako katika kuboresha makala mpya zilizoachwa duni. Wasalaam, --Baba Tabita <http://sw.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mtumiaji:Baba_Tabita> (majadiliano <http://sw.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majadiliano_ya_mtumiaji:Baba_Tabita> ) 07:17, 3 Februari 2010 (UTC) Ndugu Limoke, asante kwa jibu lako. Nimefurahi kusikia kuwa utaendelea. Unisamehe nikiendelea kuandika kuhusu usafishaji wa wikipedia baada ya shindano. Sababu hasa ni kwamba tukiendelea kuboresha makala zilizoongezeka, tuwe makini. Kabla hatujaongeza au kurekebisha habari za makala fulani, lazima tuangalie majadiliano na ukurasa wa historia ya makala hiyo. Angalia k.m. makala ya <http://sw.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uchumi> uchumi. Ukiihariri bila kuangalia <http://sw.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majadiliano:Uchumi> majadiliano yake wala <http://sw.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Uchumi&action=history> historia yake, inawezekana utaongeza kazi ya baadaye kwa vile tafsiri za shindano zilizofuta makala za zamani (pamoja na jamii na interwiki zake) hazijaunganishwa. Nitaendelea kutafuta makala kama hiyo na kuziandikia katika majadiliano yake. Kwa ajili ya kuunganisha tafsiri mbili au zaidi, labda itasaidia ukifungua zote, kila moja katika dirisha lake, na kunakilisha sehemu za makala za zamani kwenda katika makala ya sasa. Pole na kazi. Na asante kwa kazi yako. (Pia, ukiandika kwenye kurasa za majadiliano, ungeweza kutia sahihi kwa kutaipu ~~~~ ukiwa umesajiliwa kama <http://sw.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mtumiaji:Limoke_oscar> Limoke oscar.) Wasalaam, -- <http://sw.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mtumiaji:Baba_Tabita> Baba Tabita ( <http://sw.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majadiliano_ya_mtumiaji:Baba_Tabita> majadiliano) 04:08, 4 Februari 2010 (UTC) Mkiangalia historia ya makala ya uchumi iliyotajwa hapo juu, mtaona kwamba tafsiri zote za "Challenge" zilirejeshwa. Tusifanye kazi bure walivyofanya hao. Sina lingine kwa sasa ila kuwatakieni mafanikio mema siku ya J'mosi ya Wikipedia. Asanteni! Ni mimi, Baba Tabita (aka Oliver) _____ From: Abbas Mahmood [mailto:abbasjnr@hotmail.com] Sent: 21 April 2011 19:28 To: oliver_stegen(a)sil.org; 'The discussion list for the upcoming Wikimedia Kenya chapter.' Subject: RE: [Wikimedia Kenya] WikiSaturday It is supposed to be on 30th. _____ From: oliver_stegen(a)sil.org To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 19:06:56 +0300 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WikiSaturday I understood WikiSaturday to be on April 30, not April 23 . ?!? Alex, for when have you booked iHub? In any case, I may have to join you from home as family usually keeps me occupied on Saturdays. Oliver (aka BT) _____ From: wikimediake-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediake-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of SAMSON MAOSA Sent: 21 April 2011 17:01 To: The discussion list for the upcoming Wikimedia Kenya chapter. Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Survey Greetings all, hoping everyone is contented now. Speaking of WikiSaturday, since I am far from Nairobi I will start mine tomorrow. Whether it is Tomorrow I will do Swahili Wikipedia and on Saturday, if I get internet, will do English Wikipedia. Have a good friday all. -- ____________________________________________________________________________ ______ Samson Arosi Maosa, Jomo Kenyatta University of Agriculture and Technology, Bsc. Electronics and Computer Engineering +254750-nine-one-seven-three-zero-five "In this world, everything has been done but suppose we try doing it in a different (better) way?" Make someone know what you already know. Join us now at Wikimedia Kenya <http://www.wikimedia.or.ke> _______________________________________________ WikimediaKE mailing list WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake

In other languages, Google Translate seems to be working fairly well. Google Kenya has alot of work to do with Swahili, though... Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 09:46:40 +0300 From: wanjaustev(a)gmail.com To: oliver_stegen(a)sil.org; wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WikiSaturday Hi,I cannot understand anything.It looks to me like just an arrangement of words!! SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE. REGARDS, 2011/4/22 Oliver Stegen &lt;oliver_stegen(a)sil.org&gt; PS: To those of you who’re still convinced of Google translator’s effectiveness when it comes to translating between English and Swahili; just look at its translation of my first paragraph and decide for yourself how much you understand (and whether you’d want such a translation in Wikipedia): Nina J'mosi something about the Wikipedia. Mkichangia articles Kiswahili (http://sw.wikipedia.org) Do not use while the translation of Google (http://translate.google.com/toolkit/) indiscriminately. First you must ensure that the target article ijaandikwa yet. If not you can delete the information that zimeshaingizwa another. So it did e.g. just yesterday with an article of author Marjorie Oludhe Macgoye Kenya, look here: http://sw.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marjorie_Oludhe_Macgoye&diff=… It is true, in part a translation of the Google of yesterday had improved article on November 16, 2010 except for the greater part was badly affect, eg [[Category]] zilirudishwa all the [[Category]], and "category" false and also a link to [[fi:]] kilifutwa and many other things. Do not do it. It is the use of such distraction that our old wikipedia yamemkasirisha Pala. He is a "bureaucrat" to rely so often help. Msimkasirishe. Thank you! Thanks! Oliver (aka BT) From: wikimediake-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediake-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Oliver Stegen Sent: 22 April 2011 07:44 To: 'The discussion list for the upcoming Wikimedia Kenya chapter.' Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WikiSaturday Sawa. [Caveat: The following is some detailed advice about contributing to the Swahili wikipedia, esp. how to avoid Google translator due to problems of over-writing articles and how to use some wiki conventions.] Nina jambo lingine kuhusu J’mosi ya Wikipedia. Mkichangia makala za Kiswahili (http://sw.wikipedia.org) msitumie kitambo cha utafsiri cha Google (http://translate.google.com/toolkit/) ovyoovyo. Kwanza lazima kuhakikisha kwamba makala lengwa haijaandikwa bado. Msipofanya hivyo mngeweza kufuta habari ambazo zimeshaingizwa na mwingine. Ndivyo ilivyofanyika k.m. jana tu na makala ya mwandishi wa Kenya Marjorie Oludhe Macgoye, angalieni hapa: http://sw.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marjorie_Oludhe_Macgoye&diff=… Ni kweli, kwa sehemu mtafsiri wa Google wa jana aliboresha makala ya tarehe 16 Novemba 2010 ila kwa sehemu kubwa zaidi aliiathiri vibaya, k.m. [[Jamii]] zote zilirudishwa kwenye [[Category]], tena “category” za uongo; pia kiungo cha [[fi:]] kilifutwa na mambo mengi mengineyo. Msifanye hivyo. Ni matumizi ya ovyo kama hayo ambayo yamemkasirisha mzee wetu wa wikipedia Kipala. Naye ni “bureaucrat” kwa hivyo mtamtegemea mara kwa mara kuwasaidieni. Msimkasirishe. Asanteni! Kwa mashauri mengine, angalieni nilivyomwandikia ndugu yetu Limoke mwaka jana (http://sw.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majadiliano_ya_mtumiaji:Mpmayenge): Ndugu Limoke, salaam! Wakati wa shindano, makala nyingi zimeanzishwa bila kuwekewa yaliyomo hata kidogo, nasi wanawikipedia hatukuwa na nafasi ya kurekebisha sana. Kwa hiyo sasa, naomba tusaidiane kusawazisha hizo makala. Kwa mfano, ungeweza kuanza kwa kuangalia orodha ya makala bila jamii. Bila shaka utagundua kadhaa ambazo ni duni, labda yenye maneno mawili matatu tu. Ndivyo nilivyogundua k.m. na makala ya Henri Fayol, mhandisi Mfaransa wa karne ya 19. Sasa ukiangalia mabadiliko niliyoyaingiza utapata mambo ya msingi ya wikipedia. K.m. naingiza kigezo cha {{DEFAULTSORT}} kwa ajili ya orodha ya makala katika jamii ifuate alfabeti vizuri. Tena naingiza jamii za miaka ya kuzaliwa (k.m. [[Jamii:Waliozaliwa 1841]]) na ya kufariki (k.m. [[Jamii:Waliofariki 1925]]). Pia, ikiwa ni makala fupi bila maelezo mengi, naingiza kigezo cha {{mbegu-mtu}} (yaani kama ni mtu). Hatimaye, naingiza kiungo kwa wikipedia ya Kiingereza (k.m. [[en:Henri Fayol]]) ambapo naweza kupata code kwa picha ya mtu (k.m. [[Image:Fonds henri fayol.jpg|thumb|right|Henri Fayol]]) pamoja na habari nyingine. Nitashukuru kwa msaada wako katika kuboresha makala mpya zilizoachwa duni. Wasalaam, --Baba Tabita (majadiliano) 07:17, 3 Februari 2010 (UTC) Ndugu Limoke, asante kwa jibu lako. Nimefurahi kusikia kuwa utaendelea. Unisamehe nikiendelea kuandika kuhusu usafishaji wa wikipedia baada ya shindano. Sababu hasa ni kwamba tukiendelea kuboresha makala zilizoongezeka, tuwe makini. Kabla hatujaongeza au kurekebisha habari za makala fulani, lazima tuangalie majadiliano na ukurasa wa historia ya makala hiyo. Angalia k.m. makala ya uchumi. Ukiihariri bila kuangalia majadiliano yake wala historia yake, inawezekana utaongeza kazi ya baadaye kwa vile tafsiri za shindano zilizofuta makala za zamani (pamoja na jamii na interwiki zake) hazijaunganishwa. Nitaendelea kutafuta makala kama hiyo na kuziandikia katika majadiliano yake. Kwa ajili ya kuunganisha tafsiri mbili au zaidi, labda itasaidia ukifungua zote, kila moja katika dirisha lake, na kunakilisha sehemu za makala za zamani kwenda katika makala ya sasa. Pole na kazi. Na asante kwa kazi yako. (Pia, ukiandika kwenye kurasa za majadiliano, ungeweza kutia sahihi kwa kutaipu ~~~~ ukiwa umesajiliwa kama Limoke oscar.) Wasalaam, --Baba Tabita (majadiliano) 04:08, 4 Februari 2010 (UTC) Mkiangalia historia ya makala ya uchumi iliyotajwa hapo juu, mtaona kwamba tafsiri zote za „Challenge“ zilirejeshwa. Tusifanye kazi bure walivyofanya hao. Sina lingine kwa sasa ila kuwatakieni mafanikio mema siku ya J’mosi ya Wikipedia. Asanteni! Ni mimi, Baba Tabita (aka Oliver) From: Abbas Mahmood [mailto:abbasjnr@hotmail.com] Sent: 21 April 2011 19:28 To: oliver_stegen(a)sil.org; 'The discussion list for the upcoming Wikimedia Kenya chapter.' Subject: RE: [Wikimedia Kenya] WikiSaturday It is supposed to be on 30th. From: oliver_stegen(a)sil.org To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 19:06:56 +0300 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WikiSaturday I understood WikiSaturday to be on April 30, not April 23 … ?!? Alex, for when have you booked iHub? In any case, I may have to join you from home as family usually keeps me occupied on Saturdays. Oliver (aka BT) From: wikimediake-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediake-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of SAMSON MAOSA Sent: 21 April 2011 17:01 To: The discussion list for the upcoming Wikimedia Kenya chapter. Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Survey Greetings all, hoping everyone is contented now. Speaking of WikiSaturday, since I am far from Nairobi I will start mine tomorrow. Whether it is Tomorrow I will do Swahili Wikipedia and on Saturday, if I get internet, will do English Wikipedia. Have a good friday all. -- __________________________________________________________________________________ Samson Arosi Maosa, Jomo Kenyatta University of Agriculture and Technology, Bsc. Electronics and Computer Engineering +254750-nine-one-seven-three-zero-five "In this world, everything has been done but suppose we try doing it in a different (better) way?" Make someone know what you already know. Join us now at Wikimedia Kenya _______________________________________________ WikimediaKE mailing list WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake _______________________________________________ WikimediaKE mailing list WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake -- Mr. Stephen W. Wanjau Jomo Kenyatta University of Agriculture and Technology Freelance article writer and data entry specialist.Phone: +254 771 557 857 twitter: @haha_wanjaufacebook: www.facebook.com/.swanjau WebRepOverall rating _______________________________________________ WikimediaKE mailing list WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake

hi people,this discussion is very intresting.but i blame no one,its a kenyan culture to complicate issues.if we had just followed instructions as abbas had clearly stated,things would have been smoother. just incase we have forgoten,please note that our mailing list is international(as in worlwide!)please take time and ponder on what it is you want to put across to the whole world.(thru the mailing list) On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 5:00 PM, SAMSON MAOSA &lt;coolsam726(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

This is some really good news, especially for our friends in Tanzania, this could go a long way. David. On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Oliver Stegen &lt;oliver_stegen(a)sil.org&gt;wrote;wrote: -- ------------- David Mugo, ICT & E-Commerce Consultant, http://majibu.com Twitter: @raidarmax

Nyeri pilot report now available at wikimediaKE.<http://wikimedia.or.ke/The_Nyeri_Pilot> <http://wikimedia.or.ke/The_Nyeri_Pilot>Thank you. On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 4:26 PM, stephen wanjau &lt;wanjaustev(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote;wrote: -- Mr. Stephen W. Wanjau Jomo Kenyatta University of Agriculture and Technology Freelance article writer and data entry specialist. Phone: +254 771 557 857 twitter: @haha_wanjau facebook: www.facebook.com/.swanjau WebRep Overall rating

Congraturations to our Swahili community. Jessie, those are good thoughts, and it is true that they should be considered to improve the quality of the offline versions. This version should be tailored to meet the requirements of the educational syllabus of the target region. Steve, I don't know whether to thank you first or congraturate you...but I do both (Consider I have never seen the Mombasa Pilot report in the wiki :( ) -- __________________________________________________________________________________ Samson Arosi Maosa, Jomo Kenyatta University of Agriculture and Technology, Bsc. Electronics and Computer Engineering +254750-nine-one-seven-three-zero-five *"In this world, everything has been done but suppose we try doing it in a different (better) way?"* Make someone know what you already know. Join us now at Wikimedia Kenya<http://www.wikimedia.or.ke>