Hello partners. I have to appreciate the efforts of each and everyone of you
in preparation towards the launch and the pilot project itself. As we plan
for the launch and the cost of the project, let us also put the core item in
mind: The presentation itself. We will be using the openzim version of
offline wikipedia for schools, so we have to be absolutely conversant with
its functionalities.
It could be more convenient if we had the latest version (late 2010) but
from the searches I have done, the latest we have is version 0.7 which was
released early this year. This version records some of the events which have
already taken place such as the 2010 world cup in future tense. If anyone
knows more about a later version release please inform us.
I have version 7 installed with Kiwix v.0.9 in my windows 7 and it is
confirmed that it works with no hickups.
I was just surfacing the idea that those of you that are going for the pilot
may first want to meet together so that we can familiarize ourselves
completely on the use of schools wikipediaa.This will make presentations
interesting and more efficient since we can only deliver to others what we
know very well. Let us get your views on this.
Kind regards,
--
Samson Arosi Maosa,
Jomo Kenyatta University of Agriculture and Technology,
Bsc. Electronics and Computer Engineering
+254750917305
Guys,
We in JKUAT are having our exams starting tis week.so personaly i'll
be happy to approve of your suggestions.
BTW,how about we have a physical meetup before 9th jan ?although its
quite difficult,i think its good.
About the venue we could try JKUAT but its far from the city.what of UoN?
On 11/30/10, dennis munene <dennismunene(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> My suggestion would be Nairobi instead of Nyeri, Central province so that
> those of us who wun't be able to travel to any of the other two areas
> [because of internship or school] can be involved in the pilot as well.
>
> From: abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com
> To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 08:27:00 +0000
> Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] New Suggestions
>
>
>
>
> Hi guys,
> Yesterday I got to have an impromptu chat with the newest of the members:
> Jessica & Sameer. Since both of them come from Strath, I also invited the
> rest of the Strath team. Jessica had the following suggestions regarding the
> launch and the pilot program:
> *That we host the launch at Strathmore Auditorium*, to cut down on venue
> expenses;*That the pilot should cover about 3 regions (and not the initial
> 10. It is a ''pilot'', after all.)*Since this was not a formal meetup, there
> were no minutes taken - so pardon me if there is any other issue that was
> raised that I have left out.
> After Jessica left, the rest of us (Alex, Sameer and myself) debated on
> which 3 regions we would select. I suggested that it would be logical to
> first cut off the regions that did not yet have the ten schools. These were:
> Kisii, Nakuru, Laikipia, Kericho & Eldamaravin. The regions that are
> complete, as of today are: Mombasa, Nairobi, kakamega, Meru, Vihiga & Nyeri.
> Out of these six: we chose:
> 1. Mombasa, Coast Province2. Nyeri, Central Province.3. Kakamega, Western
> Province.
> The above three regions are diverse and will give us a fair representation
> of what to expect when we move countrywide, as we would have had different
> experiences from these three provinces.
> Please note that the above were our suggestions only, and you all have the
> right to voice out your suggestions as well. I think Alex/Sameer/Jessica/Ann
> will fill in any details that I might have left out.
> Thanks,Abbas.
> *P.S. - Please note that the Wikipedians in Bristol will also be holding
> their event at a University; and the Founder will be there:
> http://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------
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> Tel: +254722215101
> Facebook: abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com
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Hey Dennis,
>From the chat we had, we reasoned that the main aim of a pilot should be for us to determine the costs and dificulties involved in taking up this project country wide.
That's why we suggested these regions as they tend to represent the whole country. As for Nairobi, we since most of us live here, we already know the costs and dificulties that may be involved.
Although I'd vouch for Nairobi to be included in the pilot for guys tied here by exams and other stuff to participate.
Alex.
On Mon Nov 29th, 2010 10:15 PM PST dennis munene wrote:
>My suggestion would be Nairobi instead of Nyeri, Central province so that those of us who wun't be able to travel to any of the other two areas [because of internship or school] can be involved in the pilot as well.
>
>From: abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com
>To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 08:27:00 +0000
>Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] New Suggestions
>
>
>
>
>Hi guys,
>Yesterday I got to have an impromptu chat with the newest of the members: Jessica & Sameer. Since both of them come from Strath, I also invited the rest of the Strath team. Jessica had the following suggestions regarding the launch and the pilot program:
>*That we host the launch at Strathmore Auditorium*, to cut down on venue expenses;*That the pilot should cover about 3 regions (and not the initial 10. It is a ''pilot'', after all.)*Since this was not a formal meetup, there were no minutes taken - so pardon me if there is any other issue that was raised that I have left out.
>After Jessica left, the rest of us (Alex, Sameer and myself) debated on which 3 regions we would select. I suggested that it would be logical to first cut off the regions that did not yet have the ten schools. These were: Kisii, Nakuru, Laikipia, Kericho & Eldamaravin. The regions that are complete, as of today are: Mombasa, Nairobi, kakamega, Meru, Vihiga & Nyeri. Out of these six: we chose:
>1. Mombasa, Coast Province2. Nyeri, Central Province.3. Kakamega, Western Province.
>The above three regions are diverse and will give us a fair representation of what to expect when we move countrywide, as we would have had different experiences from these three provinces.
>Please note that the above were our suggestions only, and you all have the right to voice out your suggestions as well. I think Alex/Sameer/Jessica/Ann will fill in any details that I might have left out.
>Thanks,Abbas.
>*P.S. - Please note that the Wikipedians in Bristol will also be holding their event at a University; and the Founder will be there: http://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>--------------------------------------
>Feel free to contact me:
>Abbas Mahmood
>Tel: +254722215101
>Facebook: abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com
>Skype: Abbasjnr
>Wikimedia Kenya Member
>
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Hi guys,
Yesterday I got to have an impromptu chat with the newest of the members: Jessica & Sameer. Since both of them come from Strath, I also invited the rest of the Strath team. Jessica had the following suggestions regarding the launch and the pilot program:
*That we host the launch at Strathmore Auditorium*, to cut down on venue expenses;*That the pilot should cover about 3 regions (and not the initial 10. It is a ''pilot'', after all.)*Since this was not a formal meetup, there were no minutes taken - so pardon me if there is any other issue that was raised that I have left out.
After Jessica left, the rest of us (Alex, Sameer and myself) debated on which 3 regions we would select. I suggested that it would be logical to first cut off the regions that did not yet have the ten schools. These were: Kisii, Nakuru, Laikipia, Kericho & Eldamaravin. The regions that are complete, as of today are: Mombasa, Nairobi, kakamega, Meru, Vihiga & Nyeri. Out of these six: we chose:
1. Mombasa, Coast Province2. Nyeri, Central Province.3. Kakamega, Western Province.
The above three regions are diverse and will give us a fair representation of what to expect when we move countrywide, as we would have had different experiences from these three provinces.
Please note that the above were our suggestions only, and you all have the right to voice out your suggestions as well. I think Alex/Sameer/Jessica/Ann will fill in any details that I might have left out.
Thanks,Abbas.
*P.S. - Please note that the Wikipedians in Bristol will also be holding their event at a University; and the Founder will be there: http://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol
--------------------------------------
Feel free to contact me:
Abbas Mahmood
Tel: +254722215101
Facebook: abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com
Skype: Abbasjnr
Wikimedia Kenya Member
"Imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge. That's our commitment."
Please donate: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate/Now/en
Hi guys,
The next annual Wikimedia conference, Wikimania, is scheduled to take place in Haifa, Israel in August 4-7 2011. See: http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page.
As always, there are limited scholarships given out to those who are in financial need. Scholarship applications will begin in Jan 1 - 31, 2011. Please see a mock application form so that you may have a feel of the questions that are typically asked: https://wmschols.wikimedia.ch/
I urge you guys to take your time in thinking of the answers that you'll give; since in Wikimania 2010, only 1 out of the 20+applicants from Kenya was granted the scholarship. Also, there were a total of over 2,500 applicants last year, and only 100 of them got the scholarships: so competition is very stiff!
RegardsAbbas.
--------------------------------------
Feel free to contact me:
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Tel: +254722215101
Facebook: abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com
Skype: abbasjnr
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Hi guys,
Once again, please complete at list ten schools for the pilot program: https://spreadsheets0.google.com/ccc?key=tICLeT7WorQ9F5aVTZAkQbQ&hl=en#gid=0
For instance Eldamaravin doesn't have a single school in it. Kericho, Laikipia, Kisii, and Nakuru are still incomplete. I was impressed by the work of an unknown user who created a new row of Nyeri and managed to fill 10 schools!!! If the above-mentioned regions will remain blank or incomplete; then we'll be forced to change regions to where we can find a volunteer who'll give us the 10 schools (like what happened with Nyeri.)
Still regarding the same, I've filled in a row of Transportation. Please indicate the transport cost from Nairobi to your region, for budgeting purposes.
Best,
Abbas.
--------------------------------------
Feel free to contact me:
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Tel: +254722215101
Facebook: abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com
Skype: Abbasjnr
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"Imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge. That's our commitment."
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Hi guys,
Please find below an email I received from Steven Walling, Wikimedia Foundation's defacto anniversary contact. If by any chance any of you would want to join me in the IRC chat, do let me know and I'll give you the details on how to log in to the chat.
Regards
Abbas.
> From: swalling(a)wikimedia.org
> To: abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com
> Subject: 10th anniversary event in Nairobi
> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:54:55 -0800
>
> Hi Abbas,
>
> I hope things are well in Kenya. I did read your message about the
> schools project, it sounds interesting but I am extremely busy. We
> should talk about how it's going more later.
>
> I just wanted to update you about where the Foundation is at with the
> tenth anniversary organizing, and ask a couple questions about the
> Nairobi event. Feel free to forward this to anyone in the Kenyan/
> Swahili community.
>
> The Foundation is committed to doing a couple things now:
>
> 1. Publicity for events. We will almost certainly be creating site-
> wide banners that speak about the anniversary, and will likely direct
> readers to the anniversary wiki with the list of events. This is why
> it's imperative that any events in Kenya have complete and interesting
> descriptions, links to further information, and anything else you can
> think of to add. If you'd like some examples, I'd take a look at the
> Bristol and Dhaka events. We will also be working with the press, so
> if you have a press contact we may send appropriate inquiries to that
> would be good for me to have. We will also be creating a basic press
> kit.
>
> 2. Merchandise. As you can see on the Design and Design/Merchandise
> pages of ten.wikipedia.org, we've created both designs that can be
> easily localized for you to use, and we are also going to have kits of
> t-shirts, stickers and buttons to ship to you for free if you're
> holding an event or two. To be able to do this, I need to have the
> event listed with details about it on tenwiki, as well as a reliable
> name/address to ship the packages to in Kenya.
>
> If you could do those things, we will be ready to ship merchandise to
> you and provide more publicity for all the anniversary events in the
> next two weeks. Any questions?
>
> Also, I'll be hosting an IRC chat in #wikimedia-office on December 1
> at 16:00-17:00 UTC about the anniversary planning. It would be awesome
> if you could be there.
>
> Steven Walling
> Wikimedia Foundation Fellow
> (wikimediafoundation.org)
>
>
>
>
>
Hey Abbas,
I stay in Pangani so I can pay a visit to Safaripark.
I can get time this Friday so incase you haven't heard from them by then, let me know and I'll be happy to assit.
Great work so far!
On Mon Nov 22nd, 2010 6:17 AM PST Abbas Mahmoud wrote:
>Anne,
>
>Please take note of the following issues upon discussing with the hotel:
>
>*150 people.
>*half-day event, 3pm-8pm
>*four-oclock tea + dinner
>*wifi availability
>*LCD projector, screen + microphones.
>*whiteboard + markers
>
>I've called Serena & Safari Park. Serena is unavailable on 14th; while Safari Park is yet to email me the quotation.
>
>~Abbas.
>
>Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 16:35:11 +0300
>From: njeriannk(a)gmail.com
>To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikipedia 10
>
> hey guys, this is Ann, I'm going to Norfolk and Intercontinental to make inquiries about the venue and the food on Thursday. The budget is for 150 people. anyone wanting to join me can hola on 0729226330.
>
>
>On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 6:55 AM, Abbas Mahmoud <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>I've already sent Jessica a debrief as well:-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>From: abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com
>To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 03:53:21 +0000
>
>Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikipedia 10
>
>
>
>
>Our discussion threads can be found at: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake. Click on "WikimediaKE Archives" and you'll see them.
>
>--Abbas.
>
>
>
>
>
>Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 06:18:54 +0300
>From: raidarmax(a)gmail.com
>To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>
>Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikipedia 10
>
>Hi Jessica,
>
>Its good to finally have you here. Karibu and lets do this...
>
>Abbas,
>
>Please forward Jessica any important threads so she can get up to date with our activities and discussions.
>
>
>David.
>
>
>On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:15 AM, Jessica Colaço <jessica(a)ihub.co.ke> wrote:
>
>Hi Everyone,
>
>It is a pleasure to be part of this community. Please let me know where i can assist.
>
>Thanks,
>
>--
>Jessica Colaço
>Innovation, Community, Entrepreneurship, Business Mentoring, Research
>
>www.ihub.co.ke
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On 20 November 2010 18:01, Limoke Oscar <oslimoke(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Great developments Abass,hats off to your efforts.
>
>
>
>
>On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Abbas Mahmoud <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks for that:-)
>>
>> ________________________________
>
>> From: dennismunene(a)hotmail.com
>> To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:06:12 +0300
>
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikipedia 10
>>
>> As for the venue, try visiting eatout.co.ke they have a list of most of the
>> hotels and restaurants in kenya. They list out the best places to go for
>
>> meetings, corporate dining, cocktails, conference facilities, hotel dining,
>> WiFi... the site also shows a map giving the location of every hotel
>> included in their listing.
>>
>> ________________________________
>
>> From: abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com
>> To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 07:33:48 +0000
>
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikipedia 10
>>
>> Sawasawa.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 10:31:47 +0300
>> From: raidarmax(a)gmail.com
>
>> To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikipedia 10
>>
>> Intercon? Serena?
>>
>> David.
>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Abbas Mahmoud <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> No, the venue isn't confirmed yet. I'm meeting an accountant tomorrow who'll
>
>> assist me in finalizing the pilot's budget. Grace is working on the launch's
>> budget. Laico charges 2,8k per head while Norfolk charges 3k per head. I'm
>> told that Laico's food is not that good:-P The above charges include a
>
>> four-oclock tea as well as dinner. Do you have any other venues in mind?
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 10:09:58 +0300
>> From: raidarmax(a)gmail.com
>
>> To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikipedia 10
>>
>> I think 150 is a good number...
>>
>
>> How is the budgeting for that going? Did we decide on a venue? I would
>> suggest Jessica assists in the planning too, she has lots of experience from
>> her current job.
>>
>> David.
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Abbas Mahmoud <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com>
>
>> wrote:
>>
>> David,
>> Please find my comments below:
>>
>> ________________________________
>> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 09:50:55 +0300
>> From: raidarmax(a)gmail.com
>
>> To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikipedia 10
>>
>> Abbas,
>>
>> Laico may not be offering that, I think its important to work with a tour
>
>> company for the transfer and probably his entire transport. Why is hosting
>> the event an IF?
>> I'll talk to the Office of the Executive Director so that we can liaise
>> Ting's expenses. Regarding the "if", I hadn't written that email; rather I
>
>> copied and pasted it from another source, so pardon me for the typo.
>> Speaking of which, how many people are we targeting? 100? 150?
>>
>> On another note, I talked to Jessica, please email her introductory
>
>> materials and an update on our activities, she is interested in joining.
>> Subscribe her to the list, jessica(a)ihub.co.ke
>> Done. I'll send her the updates soon:-)
>
>> David.
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Abbas Mahmoud <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> The Wikimedia Community all over the world is busy preparing for Wikipedia
>> 10. Please check: http://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page for more info.
>
>>
>> The Foundation will be sending some awesome Wikimedia paraphernalia
>> including:
>> * tshirts (two styles, one a basic Wikipedia shirt and the other a Wikipedia
>> '10' 'team shirt')
>
>> * a pack of 12 Wikipedia 10th anniversary buttons, and simple Wikipedia
>> puzzle globe buttons
>> * paper labels with the Wikipedia tenth logo and style
>> * and Wikipedia vinyl stickers
>> * (and maybe some other cool stuff)
>
>>
>> They'll also send out kits of 50 tshirts of varying sizes -- though if we're
>> hosting a bigger event, they'll send out more.
>>
>> Lastly, Ting will be arriving here on 9th Jan and departing on 15th Jan.
>
>> He'll be staying at Laico Regency, and I do hope LR offers airport pickup as
>> well (since he'll be arriving at 3am!!).
>>
>> --Abbas.
>>
>> --------------------------------------
>
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>> Tel: +254722215101
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