I just want to know why some users were able to achieve scholarship again
and again while regular Wikimedians being excluded.
And that is EXACTLY what Stuart explained. I understood, unless you didn't!
> On Friday 31 July 2015 04:01 PM, Stuart Prior wrote:
>
> Praveen,
>
> I was chair of the Scholarship Committee for this year.
>
> It's unfortunate that you didn't get a scholarship, however there were
> many high quality applications and sometimes the difference between success
> and failure is very small, and I feel genuinely bad for any Wikimedian with
> a good application that didn't make it, but it's very competitive.
>
> We do take into account previous scholarship awards, and focus on making
> sure new people get a chance. But consistently good applications and
> excellent work can warrant repeat scholarship awards despite this.
>
> In some cases where people have been granted Scholarships previously but
> have been unable to attend the conference due to visa issues we have
> considered that when receiving their applications for the current year.
>
> I won't comment on any individual's scholarship, but "regular
Wikimedians"
> certainly make up the bulk of the scholars. Edit count is not the only
> factor, but it still is a significant (and clearly verifiable) factor when
> looking at someone's application.
>
> However, we looked for organisers too. Some of our community are better
> facilitators and community builders than they are editors, and running
> events, training and building partnerships are things that were marked
> favourably.
>
> Moreover, two identical applicants can make wildly differing applications.
> We look for those that comprehensively demonstrate their contributions and
> qualify their statements.
>
> Please apply again next year. You have just as much opportunity as anyone
> else.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Best
>
> Stuart Prior
> User:Battleofalma
>
> On 31 July 2015 at 09:16, Dariusz Jemielniak <darekj(a)alk.edu.pl
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','darekj@alk.edu.pl');>> wrote:
>
>> Hi Praveen,
>>
>> I've been a steward, as well as the chair of the FDC for three years, so
>> you may assume I've been somewhat active in Wikimedia movement. I did not
>> receive a global scholarship neither (although I did eventually go, as I
>> got elected to the Board of Trustees).
>>
>> I think it is clearly an assumption of bad faith to say that there is a
>> bias in scholarship committee. The criteria are explicit, and obviously
>> with limited resources a large number of excellent candidates, even with
>> accepted presentations, will not make it.
>>
>> I would suggest you focus on Wikimedia activity, prepare a great
>> presentation for the next year as well as a compelling application, and try
>> again.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> DJ "pundit"
>> 31 lip 2015 10:07 "praveenp" <me.praveen(a)gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','me.praveen@gmail.com');>>
napisał(a):
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Please don't derail the actual topic of the thread. I really didnt
>>> assume such an interpretation from quoting his words. Whenever I asked
>>> about the issue to anybody, I generally got such a reply, which I want to
>>> avoid here.
>>>
>>> If it is need to start a new thread, I will do that. :-)
>>>
>>> But please tell me why some people regularly get scholarships atleast
>>> since 2008, active (in Wikimedia projects / outreach programms) users never
>>> get a chance to share their experience and problems at Wikimania.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Praveen. P
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday 31 July 2015 12:40 PM, WereSpielChequers wrote:
>>>
>>> Praveen,
>>>
>>> Whether there was anything personal or confidential in Gerard's private
>>> emails to you is for him to say not for you to decide.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>>
>>> On 31 Jul 2015, at 05:59, praveenp <me.praveen(a)gmail.com
>>>
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','me.praveen@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Osmar Valdebenito,
>>> No offense was intended :-(. For prominent communities that may be true,
>>> but could you check list of users who got scholarship from Malayalam
>>> community.
>>>
>>>
>>> Amir Ladsgroup,
>>>
>>> 1) As you can see there is nothing confidential or personal in Gerards
>>> reply. He just gave a summary of "known" practices.
>>> 2) Users are not asking for trophies. They also want to participate
>>> Wikimania and share and get the experience.
>>> 3) Wikimedia projects are community processes. I simply don't understand
>>> how granting scholarship to same persons again and again for five or six
>>> years help that process. I also dont understand that communication and
>>> sharing of multiple viewpoints, ideas and practices is possible in the
>>> above scenario.
>>> 4) Yes; If clicking tick marks in translatewiki on some 500 string in 5
>>> minutes before applying for scholarship (as reviewing the translation) is a
>>> prominent contribution.
>>>
>>> In the beginning every body treated equal, we have multiple participants
>>> (with understandable reasons) for Wikimania. It started to shrink later and
>>> now people plainly believe granting scholarship is an act of favoritism. I
>>> also want to prove I am wrong.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Praveen. P
>>> User:Praveenp
>>>
>>> PS: Mail striped because mailman held my previous reply claiming "
>>> Message body is too big:"
>>>
>>> On Friday 31 July 2015 05:03 AM, Amir Ladsgroup wrote:
>>>
>>> There are several issues I want to comment:
>>> 1-First of all. Do you have permission from Gerard to publish your
>>> conversation? Maybe there is something confidential in it, Did you care to
>>> check?
>>> 2- Scholarship is not award or trophy, bear that in mind.
>>> 3- People are expected to come here and learn, communicate, etc. that's
>>> why a same person gets scholarship,
>>> 4- No one's wife got scholarship because of being wife of someone. They
>>> probably are prominent contributors too.
>>> 5- Check my first question and answer that. (Emphasizing)
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 12:05 AM Osmar Valdebenito <
>>> b1mbo.wikipedia(a)gmail.com
>>>
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','b1mbo.wikipedia@gmail.com');>>
wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry, but when I read "No regular Wikimedian get any
scholarship", I
>>>> stopped reading.
>>>> It is not only a lie, but also very unfair to all the extremely great
>>>> Wikimedians that attended and made great contributions in Wikimania, and
>>>> also the volunteers that have helped now and in the past reviewing and
>>>> evaluated thousand of applications in the Scholarship Committee.
>>>>
>>>>
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