On 12/15/06, Parker Peters onmywayoutster@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/15/06, Earle Martin wikipedia@downlode.org wrote:
On 15/12/06, Stephen Bain stephen.bain@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/15/06, Earle Martin wikipedia@downlode.org wrote:
On 14/12/06, Matthew Brown morven@gmail.com wrote:
I suspect in many circumstances Danny will not be able to
respond
to
such questions, since he doesn't want an official decision of
the
Foundation on record.
I thought this project was founded on accountability.
Editors are accountable for their own actions.
The Foundation rightly does not want to be accountable for other people's actions.
I have no idea where you got the idea that I was asking the Foundation to be responsible for other people's actions. I'll quote you again the text (quoted above) that I was replying to:
"Danny... doesn't want an official decision of the Foundation on
record."
In this case, it was an "office action", which appears to generally equate to "putting stuff in the memory hole".
Is it Foundation policy to hide official decisions of the Foundation? Or is it Danny policy? Either way, it appears that the management of this project is asymptotically approaching that of the Open[sic] Directory Project.
-- Earle Martin
Given that the risk of violating an Office action is Danny having you banned/desysopped/draped in sackcloth and ashes, I think that the boundaries of Office actions need to be spelled out pretty clearly. Hiding them is not good for the project.
Parker ____
On 12/15/06, James Hare messedrocker@gmail.com wrote:Yes. We all know
what happened to Erik Moeller.
And now let's not speak of that incident ever again.
James,
to "not speak of something again" isn't helpful either. Right or wrong, eventually cleared up or not, that incident seems entirely relevant to the questions being asked today, because another admin is trying - in very good faith - to get the answers he needs so that he doesn't step on the toes of OFFICE.
If those answers aren't provided, if OFFICE isn't willing to tell an administrator what he needs to know, or even to give him a "well we can't say 100% but we know you are acting in good faith so if we have to undo something you do, no hard feelings/punishment will be coming your way", then we've got a pretty big problem on our hands.
Parker