On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 17:08, Stevertigo wrote:
| >| But isn't it obvious that Pizza Puzzle is just joining | >| this debate to cause conflict? | > | > | >Well, of the two - conflict or consensus, which can actually be "caused"? | | Vicki:Both, of course.
Ha. Nope, sorry. This is related to that old principle... (via Dr. Phil ;) noone can "make" you mad... they can do something that would in 10 out of 11 billion people would result in an angry response, but thats not a "make".
Can you suggest consensus? Yes. Can you attempt to cause conflict? Certainly... But theres a step in the middle there that people miss. An analogy would be: (as people have often stated ) "We fight to protect our freedom" Conquest equals freedom? Dont think so. Conquest = Wealth = Material freedom/perception of freedom/relative freedom... etc. Thats perhaps more correct.
Can you make yourself mad? If so, then someone can make you mad.