--- Dante Alighieri dalighieri@digitalgrapefruit.com wrote:
At 12:08 PM 5/31/2003, you wrote:
I have temporarily revoked Kils' sysop status on
en:, someone with
developer status on de: may want to do the same.
Explanation:
*snip snip*
In spite of my objections, this should normally go
through discussion
first before the status is revoked, but I am
worried that Kils might
delete more pages, and it seemed like an
appropriate safety measure. I
also wanted to allow others to take a look at his
user talk page to have a
track record, and this was not possible with him
being a sysop, because
then I could not protect the page or stop him from
deleting it. If anyone
feels that Kils must be a sysop again, please post.
Well, here's my take.
I doubt that Kils would delete any other pages. He seems to have been overly hasty in his deletion of the Viking pages (because a record ought to be left of the incident), but I believe that his reasoning was semi-sound. He was accepting responsibility for the actions of (it would appear) his subordinates. It sounds like Kils was the sysop that Viking claimed was a member of the Viking group. It also sounds like, while Kils shares the Viking views regarding the safety of children on the net, that he plans on advancing his goals in a different manner. Given that, I see no danger in restoring Kils sysop powers, understanding of course that they should be revoked if he unilateraly enages in any form of censorship. As Kils stated, his concern was that the article was a bit more explicit and "handbook" styled than perhaps was necessary or desirable in an encyclopedia. While I don't happen to agree, it's certainly a valid point. Given that Kils seems to have assured us that the Viking group is now commited to not using User:Viking's tactics, I think Kils status ought to be restored.
No, if Kils is Viking, then hih sysop status DEFINATELY shouldn'y be restored. Sysops *really* shouldn't make pseudonyms or intimidate others. But I haven't seen enough evidence that Kils is Viking. --LittleDan
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