I have temporarily revoked Kils' sysop status on en:, someone with developer status on de: may want to do the same. Explanation: In the last few days, a user named "Viking" has vandalized/downsized a couple of articles he considered "indecent" (especially the [[fisting]] article), threatened people not to question what he is doing if they didn't have "administrator status" and then left (there was a brief discussion of a possible ban). Kils subsequently deleted Viking's user and talk pages and explained it was an "experiment of his children". I asked him for details, he responded and then *deleted his talk page* before I could read his response. I restored the talk page and there was the following response. ----------------------- Eloquence: I confirm this - I do not think any had the quality of vandlism, otherwise I would have stepped in. We were concerned that a "handbook type" with direct instructions to certain practises on certain pages was endangering the reputation of wikipeia and of us as visible contributers and cooperators. A first thing many teachers and professors for example do, before they endorse or use a web based project in class or with students/parents, is to search for ugly content within. And there was some, and as we were supported by responses of colleagues with the right background it was beyond the rules of wikipedia - young vikings are often of very spontaneous mannors, I advised them to do things different, but then we are also very democratic. they plan to do it different now - we could have done everything anonymous, but we did not - from that you can deduct that we all are interested in communication and construction - we are all astonished how much time you spent in the wikipedia project (Anerkennung!) you seem to need only very little sleep - best greetings across the ocean (from the USA) from uwe kils - user Kils 18:50 31 May 2003 (UTC) ----------------------- It seems quite clear that Uwe Kils shares Viking's standard of "decency" regarding Wikipedia articles and feels that material e.g. about specific sexual practices is inappropriate. In light of his actions, I do not trust him to be a sysop anymore. In spite of my objections, this should normally go through discussion first before the status is revoked, but I am worried that Kils might delete more pages, and it seemed like an appropriate safety measure. I also wanted to allow others to take a look at his user talk page to have a track record, and this was not possible with him being a sysop, because then I could not protect the page or stop him from deleting it. If anyone feels that Kils must be a sysop again, please post. Regards, Erik _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l