Exactly. The "official name " property
always has the name in the
original script. But we can and should have the transliteration in a
qualifier.
Joe
On 30 Apr 2015 06:13, "Gerard Meijssen" <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hoi,
We transliterate every name from one script to the other.
Transliteration the official name is exactly the one you should not
transliterate.. What is left after transliteration is not official.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 29 April 2015 at 18:54, Thomas Douillard <thomas.douillard(a)gmail.com
> wrote:
> It's always possible to transliterate the official name
> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1448>property. Of course
> this should be done by a gadget, or we may have to find a special treatment
> for the ''name'' properties.
>
> 2015-04-28 23:06 GMT+02:00 Joe Filceolaire <filceolaire(a)gmail.com>om>:
>
>> I agree up to a point. Transliteration is not appropriate for labels
>> for all items. There are however a few categories of items for which
>> transliterated labels are appropriate. For example :
>> * English labels for villages and towns
>> * English labels for people
>> *English labels for bands and albums
>> I'm sure there are others that could use this too.
>>
>> Joe
>> On 27 Apr 2015 18:09, "Leon Liesener"
<leon.liesener(a)wikipedia.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The problem with ISO is that it's a standard for language-independent
>>> transliteration to Latin script. Since labels on Wikidata are
>>> language-dependent, making use of ISO does not make sense really. If
>>> you use ISO for Russian names in Cyrillic script, the label you get
>>> is
>>> not in English. It's still in Russian but transliterated to Latin
>>> script. ISO thus would only fit as an alias for the Russian interface
>>> language, if at all.
>>>
>>> 2015-04-26 22:39 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen <
>>> gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>gt;:
>>> > Hoi,
>>> > <grin> ISO is a reliable source; it is THE standard </grin>
>>> Wikipedia is
>>> > definitely not a standard by its own admission.
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > GerardM
>>> >
>>> > On 26 April 2015 at 22:37, Yaroslav M. Blanter <putevod(a)mccme.ru>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On 2015-04-26 22:33, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hoi
>>> >>> My point is that it is not a given that we should follow any
>>> WIkipedia
>>> >>> for anything. Also the point of romanisation of Russian is not
>>> for the
>>> >>> benefit of Russian speakers, it is for the speakers of English.
>>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >>> GerardM
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >> On one hand, yes.
>>> >>
>>> >> On the other hand, no reliable source uses ISO. When NYT writes
>>> about a
>>> >> Russian person, they do not use ISO, they use what the English
>>> Wikipedia
>>> >> uses or smth similar. In my passport, they do not use ISO
>>> (fortunately), why
>>> >> should then ISO be used on Wikidata in an entry about me?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers
>>> >> Yaroslav
>>> >>
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