Hoi,
My understanding is that it is machines that need to uniquely know what a
property stands for. People are quite capable understanding what a
combination of a P and a Q mean. At that time there is no disambiguation.
With proper descriptions it is not hard at all to choose the right property
when a new statement is made.
So really what IS the issue?
Thanks,
GerardM
On 9 July 2015 at 10:59, Daniel Kinzler <daniel.kinzler(a)wikimedia.de> wrote:
Am 09.07.2015 um 03:12 schrieb Ricordisamoa:
Il 08/07/2015 22:00, Daniel Kinzler ha scritto:
The idea was readability and
internationalization.
Which one is more readable and internationalized,
{{#property:syntymäaika}} or
{{#property:P569}} ?
The former makes reading and reusing templates from other wikis much
harder.
Well, yea, localizing things always makes them harder to use by people who
do not
speak the respective language. I'd say the natural language name is still
more
readable,
since there are probably more people who know what "syntymäaika" means
than what
"P569"
means.
But I see your point, especially with regards to cross-wiki template use
(if we
ever get that).
> If there is consensus to not use human
readable property names for
accessing
> data, and solely rely on IDs instead, we
could indeed stop all this
right now,
> and just drop the uniqueness constraint for
labels as well as for
aliases of
Can you point to a community decision/discussion regarding this? Is the
sentiment the same across several languages?
If this feature is *really* not needed/wanted, we can of course drop it.
Would
save a lot of trouble. But I'd want to be rather sure about that. After
all,
even MediaWiki's magic words like #REDIRECT are localized.
On a related note: what about the "#property" bit. Should that be
localized?...
--
Daniel Kinzler
Senior Software Developer
Wikimedia Deutschland
Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V.
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