Thanks for your comments Ed. To answer your question, all Wikidata items
created after someone else made a WIkipedia page (like the original Finnish
Wikipedia article at the beginning of this thread) are by definition
"stubs". Often (because of spelling differences in names) these should be
merged and not fleshed out further. This stubby group of possible merge
candidates happens precisely because the person making the item is not the
same as the person making the article. One of the requests I have made
before is to have a tool that generates a list of items linked to the
Wikipedia pages I personally created. In my case, this would be the
Wikipedia pages I created before 2014 or so, which I believe is more than a
thousand. If I had a list of these with the number of statements in the
items I would go through the ones with less than 5 statements and fix them.
Since Wikidata I have flipped my way of work: instead of starting with
images on Commons and then writing an article on Wikipedia, I now start
with items on Wikidata and add images and articles much further down the
road.
On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Ed Summers <ehs(a)pobox.com> wrote:
On Sep 2, 2017, at 7:47 AM, Jane Darnell
<jane023(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Your note really made me feel so sad. I try to motivate my Wikipedian
friends into
doing more on Wikidata and each time they react the way you
did, with a sentence like "I imagined that the mapping between Wikipedia
and Wikidata was ultra-automated." I guess there is something about the
"data" word in the same that makes people assume it is technical, or that
being "machine-readable" makes it impossible for humans to read and without
"bot" knowlege, there is no place for "normal contributors" to help
out.
I appreciate this perspective a great deal. I think it's great that you
are motivating users to edit Wikidata--it's really important. Wikidata is
nothing (IMHO) without the human-in-the-loop.
But as a practical matter wouldn't it be useful if there were stubs in
Wikidata that would help editors identify which entities need attention? Or
would the vastness of it cause a problem?
I can certainly see an argument for an embargo period to give
counter-vandalism efforts a chance to triage the new pages. But after that
point wouldn't it be useful if a bot monitored the language wikipedias for
new entries and then added them to Wikidata so that people could fill them
out?
I'm just throwing ideas around here, and am not trying to be critical of
the current state of affairs. You all are doing amazing work.
//Ed
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