LiAnna, is there any way the filter rules could be adjusted to allow
my followup questions, please?
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Date: Tue, 22 May 2018 17:50:48 -0600
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Education] Evaluation report on Wikipedia Fellows pilot
LiAnna, thank you so much for sending the list of twelve partner
associations at
I am copying the list here because I have more questions:
American Anthropological Association
American Chemical Society
American Society of Plant Biologists
American Sociological Association
American Studies Association
Association for Psychological Science
Association for Women in Mathematics
Linguistic Society of America
Louisiana State University, Communication across the Curriculum
Midwest Political Science Association
National Communication Association
National Women’s Studies Association
Society for Marine Mammalogy
I'd like to recommend brainstorming what a list of, say 50 such
associations would look like if you picked them specifically to
balance them against e.g.
Since I am certain you will see the merit of such work, I want to take
this time to say a few words about economics. In particular, with
reference to:
These are very serious questions impacting the lives, livelihoods, and
years of productive life of billions upon billions of people, and will
probably remain as weighty for years.
In the mean time, I want to take this opportunity to reiterate my
recommendation to establish an essay contest for students on topics
such as economics, or any of Wikipedia's under-represented sciences or
humanities. The last time we discussed this question I did not
understand the reasons that you suggested such an essay contest would
be inappropriate. Has your view evolved?
Best regards,
Jim
On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 3:57 PM, LiAnna Davis <lianna(a)wikiedu.org> wrote:
Answers inline!
On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 12:15 PM, Juliana Bastos Marques <
domusaurea(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I’d like to add another question. As you and others may know, I work in a
particularly quarrelsome Wikipedia (PT), where there are lots of reversions
of edits from newbies, even when they display knowledge of WP rules. What
was the reception of the Fellows’ work among the community of editors?
There were some minor disagreements with other English Wikipedia editors,
but
conversations were ultimately productive. We did have one article
nominated for deletion, but the Fellow was able to successfully argue for
it to not be deleted.
Em 22 de mai de 2018, à(s) 16:02, James Salsman
<jsalsman(a)gmail.com>
escreveu:
Would you please describe how you choose the
subject matter of
articles and expertise for inviting Fellows?
Fellows chose their own articles to improve based on their interests and
expertise. We selected the associations to participate in the pilot based
on our relationships with them; we're expanding future Fellows cohorts to
other subject areas.
It's
not clear whether the Fellows were paid or otherwise compensated;
were they?
There's a reference to this in the "Recruiting Wikipedia Fellows" section
(I know there's a lot in here, so I'm not surprised if you missed it!): "We
encouraged partners to consider offering Fellows honoraria, travel
scholarships to their conference, or conference fee waivers. Partners were
amenable to the idea but most said they needed more time to be able to
offer it. We hope this might be able to be built into future Fellows
cohorts."
"In the past four years, the Wiki Education
Foundation (Wiki
Education) has signed formal partnership
agreements with academic
associations to improve Wikipedia in their topic area." -- how many?
Is the list public?
We've signed agreements with 12 academic associations; they're listed on
our website:
https://wikiedu.org/partnerships/
When you
select such subjects and topics, do you consider the number
of pageviews? Do you use existing WP:BACKLOG category membership?
Both?
We encouraged Fellows to choose articles that would receive large page
views or were core articles in their field -- subjects that they would be
able to improve but a student studying that topic would struggle to
effectively improve. Beyond that, we left the selection up to the Fellows.
Do you
consider the harm inaccuracy or bias can do to society by
infesting Wikipedia when selecting the subject and topics?
We teach all our program participants about the importance of NPOV and
stress how writing for Wikipedia needs to be fact-based, encyclopedic
content, not persuasive, analytical content.
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