Hi Asaf, Back to your original question, Isn't "google rank" a user dependent parameter? I think depending on the history of clicks and other personalized preferences, how Google presents the results changes from user to user. So the term of "being first or second or ..." google hit sounds something symbolic and non measurable and generalizable to me.
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:22 AM, Asaf Bartov abartov@wikimedia.org wrote:
Thanks for this pointer, Haitham.
But this reminds me of a longtime concern about Alexa: Where does Alexa get its numbers? As far as I can tell (and I haven't spent more than 2 minutes looking for an answer), it's using a spyware toolbar to do client-side analytics from participating (or just ignorant... ;)) users' browsers, as well as a server-side component collecting data from visitors to those sites that have installed their component. Since neither we nor Google have installed their server-side component, am I correct to infer all they can know about wiki?edia.org domains stems from that group of users who have the Alexa toolbar installed?
If I am, isn't that worse than useless?
A.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Haitham Shammaa hshammaa@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Alexa gives some info on clickstream, but regardless of the search result order (e.g. 23.54% from google).
It also gives where visitors go on Wikipedia.org, which is helpful to get information about language breakdown (58%:En, 7.5:De)
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/wikipedia.org
Hope this is helpfuI, although it`s not perfectly what you are looking for.
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On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:47 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.wiki@gmail.comwrote:
Hi all,
Are there any solid estimates out there of how many Google [or other] searches have a Wikipedia article as the first [or second or third...] hit? Any language breakdowns of this would be super cool as well.
I've seen offhand references to this phenomenon in many papers, but I'm wondering if someone on this list knows of a particularly good estimate or reliable information.
thanks, Phoebe
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