So, if I can re-ignite and re-frame the original question I posed,
- Why do we need a "wiki journal" if there are already high impact journals that are receptive to high quality "wiki studies"?
-Aaron
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Manuel Palomo Duarte manuel.palomo@uca.eswrote:
Nice post, Kerry. Let me add that the citation rates are calculated using the cites in reputated journals already indexed ...
2012/11/8 Kerry Raymond kerry.raymond@gmail.com
Actually the reputation of journals is usually derived from its impact factor****
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_factor****
which is all about citation rates rather than acceptance/rejection rates.
Acceptance rates are sometimes used for newer journals as citation rates aren’t available. But it doesn’t follow that a new journal must reject reasonable papers in order to achieve some desired acceptance rate. A new journal (properly advertised) will probably attract a lot of papers that have been rejected elsewhere so you probably end up with plenty of worthy-of-rejection material. ****
There is no way to get an immediate “great reputation” for a new journal. But I think a clear focus on topic, a hard-working international editorial team, and a firm but fair reviewing process and reviewers will yield good-quality papers and will attract more good quality papers in response
Kerry****
*From:* wiki-research-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: wiki-research-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Aaron Halfaker *Sent:* Friday, 9 November 2012 1:51 AM *To:* Research into Wikimedia content and communities *Subject:* Re: [Wiki-research-l] Wiki Research Journal? - Why?****
"Highly rated" is an interesting property. One of the ways that a publication venue becomes highly rated is by being highly restrictive. In fact, the primary measurement of the quality of a publication venue is the acceptance rate of that conference. ****
WikiSym is not considered highly rated because a high proportion of the submitted papers are accepted. Would a wiki journal be more restrictive in order to gain a "highly rated" status? ****
I think it's interesting to ask why WikiSym needs improvement and why attendance has been falling. If a WikiSym is a wiki conference that is struggling to maintain participation, how might a wiki journal surmount such trouble? Assuming that the answer to my question above is "yes, the wiki-journal would be more restrictive", how would such a journal gather more submissions than an established conference like WikiSym -- enough to both produce regular issues and maintain a high rejection rate?****
-Aaron****
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Joe Corneli holtzermann17@gmail.com wrote:****
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Aaron Halfaker aaron.halfaker@gmail.com wrote:
To state it plainly, why do we need yet another publication venue
specific to wiki software?****
I think people want a "highly rated" publication venue. Also,
«The reason why WikiSym is changing is for the same reason. People are not going to the conference! I think the attendance has been below 100 for some time now. That's not a sustainable number for the amount of work that goes into organizing a conference.»
But what you're saying suggests that maybe work should be done to improve existing venues rather than creating a new one.
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