There's a difference between a project to centralize the various references in Wikipedia, and an attempt to build a universal bibliographic database. The first is a reasonable project, though I think everyone involved has underestimated the extent to which normalization and manual aggregation will be needed.
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for those links, John.
I agree that a separate project is needed to have a central source that all language versions of all projects can reference. The citations version of Commons.
I like the French model of using "Article name (Authors)" as a key. Perhaps with "Article name (Authors, Year)" if needed to disambiguate. This shares a design principle with the move away from CamelCase to freeform article titles: one should be able to insert an article name into a natural sentence, and link the appropriate section of the sentence, and have it take you to the appropriate article.
To DGG's question: in the long run, the scope of "all cited works" can be captured in such a project, at least for the works cited on a wiki Project -- anyone making a new citation would either find it already in the project or would add it. Whether this covers all works cited by active academics of scholars depends on how effectively we draw them into our community and help them see where an extra minute of work on their part will help thousands of their readers, reviewers, and reusers.
SJ.
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:13 AM, John Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Finn Aarup Nielsen fn@imm.dtu.dk wrote:
.. Do anyone knows anything about the French discussions on the introduction of the 'Reference' namespace? Should we just implement the French system on the English Wikipedia and we are there?
This was discussed on en.wp in late 2007...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29/Archive_...
The proposal on fr.wp in early 2006:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Prise_de_d%C3%A9cision/Espace_r%...
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