Dear All,
Thanks for bringing this topic up on the list. True, we do seek random users from the Wikipedia community for our studies. But, like phoebe mentioned, we usually expect a particular trait/quality in the users. Generally, most studies are aimed at "experienced editors": those who have been along for a while, who understand wikipedia policies and who make significant contributions to any article/set of articles over a period of time.
It would be great if there were some mechanism to invite editors to participate in our studies without giving an image of us being "spammers" or "vandals". After all, all we need is a sizeable number of participants out of millions of editors, which would not only make our research credible, but also worth mentioning while contemplating future directions for any Wiki based system.
~ Avanidhar
On Nov 19 2008, phoebe ayers wrote:
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Piotr Konieczny piokon@post.pl wrote:
phoebe ayers wrote:
- The researcher has done the standard things (posted on the mailing
list, on the village pump) and hasn't gotten any results; or has semi-randomly posted on people's talk pages, potentially getting a warning about spamming in the process
As a result:
- many of the same people (i.e. very visible contributors) keep
getting asked to participate in different studies; or
- the researcher is left with a self-selected group of people from the
mailing lists or other places, which may in no way represent 'the community' (my hypothesis is that we have many small communities, working under the greater umbrella of Wikipedia); and who may be people who are particularly outspoken or disgruntled; or
There is an interesting tool: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random/User If anybody wants a truly random sample of Wikipedia users, that's a good way to do it.
Is asking for a survey spamming? That's a good question. If we could raise it on a community page and get a consensus that it is not, than we could potentially create a bot that could be fed a survey and would deliver it to x random users via the above page.
This seems like an interesting idea for random studies.
Many of the studies I have encountered are looking for "some experienced wikipedians" to participate, and that seems like a much harder thing to pull off. The chances of getting an "experienced" user who is willing to talk to you out of the 8 million registered accounts on en:wp seems low if you go about it by trying to randomly poll users. I think a lot of researchers want people who are 'experienced' by some metric so they can give informed feedback on processes, policies, social dynamics, interfaces... but it's also pretty common that most contributors focus in on only a few areas. So how to get experienced people who can speak to the questions you are interested in, particularly if you're not a wikipedian yourself?